No.242
I've been addicted to the internet for a very long time. As you can imagine, I'm still struggling with it.
No.243
I had a lot of trouble to quit weed. I used to drink a lot too but it was easy to quit. I masturbate way too much too
No.244
I don't think I've ever been addicted to anything. Certainly nothing material, at least. I suppose if I'm "addicted" to anything, it'd have to online interaction, but that's probably to fill the social void gaping inside me because I don't have anyone to talk with in-person. That might just be a post-hoc rationalization, though.
No.257
>>241only addicted to this beautiful smile
No.1212
>>242Has anyone ever figured out how to deal with this in a way that doesn't make you miserable?
No.1213
MMORPGs. I won't touch them now.
No.1214
>>242>>243>>244>>246>>1213Things like jerking off too much or using the internet for too long aren't addictions so much as they are stigmatized bad habits. You're not addicted to the thing itself, you're addicted to the event that comes with it.
No.1217
>>1214I don't agree with this reasoning. Were this really true then gambling would not be a problem, for example.
No.1218
I've been reading a book about overcoming addiction, one of its advices is "Continue doing what is making you addicted as long as you haven't finished this book." So far I like this advice.
No.1219
>>1217Let me put it this way; that sort of addiction comes from a lack of self-control and discipline. Something like cocaine is addictive: it goes into your brain and directly causes a physical dependency.
Gambling isn't that. Gambling is an abstract concept, not a physical thing. People with gambling addictions can theoretically quit whenever they want, they just choose not to because they lack the willpower. A coke addict, meanwhile, will get seriously ill because his brain
needs the substance to function.
No.1246
>>1219I disagree, even in non-chemical addictions, addicts experience strong cravings and compulsive thoughts about getting their next fix. The drug involved just happens to be naturally released by the brain's reward system.
No.1249
>>1214>>1219I've had withdrawal symptoms associated with what you perceive as ``real
addictions, like tremors, chills, fatigue, nausea, insomnia, sharp drop in cognitive performance, mood swings, anhedonia, terrible nightmares, and so on, from pornography. You are presenting a very dumb (in my view) opinion, without really backing it up. What you seem to refer to is physical addiction to something, which is usually taken care of through medical detox, in most cases it takes no longer than 4 weeks to complete. Now take a moment to think why, when physical dependency you seem to take as the main draw to thing you're addicted to, is taken care of through the detox, the amount of people that relapse after that ranges from 50 to fucking 90%?
Addiction causes physical changes in your brain, erodes your will and self-control, and changes you as a person. It does not need to be a substance you ingest to do that, hell, every action you take and do not take shapes your brain accordingly. And unlike physical dependency, they can't just keep you for detox, because you are already sensitized to the thing you're addicted to, and it can take a long time to desensitize to manageable levels. You remain forever at danger of relapse to some degree - I've seen reports from people that have gone sober for a long period of time let their guard down and have their fix, only to end up worse than before they started rehab, unable to go even a week without using.
>Let me put it this way; that sort of addiction comes from a lack of self-control and discipline.
This has to be the dumbest kuso I've read this month. If there's one consensus among addicts that successfully stopped using, it is that relapsing is ultimately a decision you take. Ironically, I observed this sentiment especially when reading accounts from users of what you seem to glorify as ``true addicting things - morphine, alcohol, meth, etc.
In short, I don't think you have any clue what the fuck you are talking about. If physical withdrawal symptoms were all there is to an addiction, it wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is. Unfortunately, as long-lasting addiction effects are not physically apparent (until you scan the brain itself), smug weenies will tell you that it's ``just willpower bro'', just like they do with any sort of mental illness. You make me sick to my stomach. Relying purely on willpower is like running a marathon with your legs tied - you definitely don't want to do that with a handicap, or for a prolonged period of time. It's already hard to do, so any help you can get (like managing your triggers, forming healthy habits, getting help from other people, reducing stress, etc.) is definitely a lifesaver.
No.1250
>>1249Bold of you to assume I never went through anything like that myself. I've quit things before. When I was a teen, I was addicted to 4chan to the point where I'd get physically ill if I was away from it for too long.
No.1251
food
specifically the part after I eat, when I enter a food coma
No.1252
>>1250>Something like cocaine is addictive: it goes into your brain and directly causes a physical dependency.>When I was a teen, I was addicted to 4chan to the point where I'd get physically ill if I was away from it for too long.So, the best comeback you could come up with was invalidating your previous stance, through your own experiences, in an attempt at giving yourself credibility? I don't even know what to say, to attempt to argue against somebody, and to accidentally argue against yourself instead is something I have never seen a person do before. I think even a text generating model would do a better job than you (and make for a smarter, more engaging conversation partner in general).
No.1254
>>1251Food addiction seems like the worst since you need a normal "dose" very often to stay alive
No.1255
>>1253>This seems to have escalated to a bad pointCalling somebody out for being a dumbass is where you draw the line? Jesus Christ, no wonder there's nothing of substance being posted here.
I should have expected that a spinoff of a /jp/ spinoff that itself was populated from a /jp/ spinoff would be kuso cubed. Enjoy your lunch, I guess.
No.1256
>>1252My comeback is that I quit by quitting. Once I realized what was happening, I made it a rule that I wasn't allowed to visit the site anymore. It
sucked in the short-term, but I got over it and I feel fine now.
No.1257
>>1255your posts are not that smart
No.1258
Now we just need the drug hater to come in here and call everyone a degenerate for ever having been addicted to anything.