No.3219
So the home's log of latest posts is going to be removed?
No.3220
something I've considered is having an alternative and additional /all/, or maybe just browsing mode, which just lists threads in the same way as
https://tinychan.net/ or the current kissu homepage. This would give people the ability to see changes to things at a glance.
I would probably add this later however as it's something that anyone can program using the APIs on the site.
No.3222
>>3219yeah, in the future I think it will. I'd rather highlight threads that are getting replies than every new posts.
Right now the homepage is acting as an overboard which just means that the current overboard /all/ is badly designed
No.3223
>>3222Trips. Woah!
I usually check the home page instead of /all/ because I tend to have already seen the OPs and last posts of most threads, the latest posts log "cuts the fat" if you will. Back in 4/qa/ I used to do the same by searching for recent posts in desuarchive.
I don't think you can rework the overboard into something like that, so I'd prefer the log stayed. I do check the index or catalog when there's been more activity than the log can cover, or just when I feel like it, that's something the overboard can be useful for (though I always visit each board individually).
No.3225
>>3223I think I can and I'm adding it to the release goals. It should just be a mode toggle
Anyways,
>>3224that's the idea for the home
No.3226
The grand release isn't a redo or reskin, it's a remake/new thing so it's not going to be constrained by same limitations
No.3228
The problem I have with keeping it on the homepage is diluted function and lack of focus. If I cater it to being a makeshift overboard then the landing page doesn't show off the site very well. 8kun's homepage for example tells me nothing about the site and is a cluttered mess. I want to avoid this
No.3229
like, if the homepage doesn't act as a homepage then there's no where to place a homepage, but the function you want can be put anywhere, even on the board pages if you wanted me to
No.3231
>>3223I agree with pretty much all of this. That said, there wouldn't be nearly as much incentive to do this if there was an option to sort threads by last reply in the catalog. Were there such an option, I'd be completely fine with getting rid of the post log. Long-term, however, it might be nice to instead replace the functionality of the homepage post log with an RSS feed.
No.3251
programmed the two additions,
https://github.com/ECHibiki/Kissu-Vi/pullsNeed to verify install and bring over the changes.
No.3256
new post counter on /all/ is working
new thread from /all/ is workings
quick reply from /all/ is working(kind of a low effort adoption)
No.3259
It's an interesting idea, but I think it's something I'll have to see in action to judge
No.3260
>>3256If I click a post number, does it post a reply in the correct thread? (Testing this now.) I still see the board select dropdown. (Didn't work with no board selected, trying it again with /b/ selected.)
No.3263
>>3260it's hacky because this code is all throwaway. You have to specify your board in dropdown
No.3264
>>3263or low effort rather
No.3266
seems like for now I'll have to forgo ignoring sage for /all/
No.3267
In the future may be a good idea to have a board automatically selected for the quick reply
No.3269
it would be, but I'm not going to spend more effort than I have to on something I'm going to toss later.
If someone wants it that badly the code is open source
No.3270
Ah good point, forgot this is temporary
No.3330
Wait, so the latest posts log did get introduced to /all/ or did I misunderstand? I haven't been able to find it.
No.3332
>>3330No, this is long term thing
No.3339
Also have to get polls working with /all/ which I'll do since it's a pretty simple bug I think
No.3341
mostly use /all/ these days since the site has multiple active boards now, it's good to see you working on it
No.3342
I'll probably improve /poll/ to allow revoting when I begin moving it to the future tech-stack
No.3343
>>3342Make it an option, some polls work better without revoting.
No.3345
It adds a 1px pointless border just to move the thread a bit. I'd say it's useful at catching your attention
No.3346
>>3334>>3229>but the function you want can be put anywhere, even on the board pages if you wanted me tocontinuing from this idea I'm going to make it a sidebar feature.
In the image on the top left there's the 4taba icon. I'll put an icon there, pressing it will open up a summary page. Looking at what's on the home page, it could realistically be put into a 300px space...
No.3347
>>3346maybe I should post a diagram instead because this is unclear
No.3350
My one issue with your design is that I think you underestimate the size of the small banners. They're a bit larger than you may think, and probably won't, or shouldn't align perfectly with the sidebar.
No.3355
>>3353please consult mobile theme in main thread.
Side bar can load default closed or use variant of mobile screen in smaller sizes were it uses mobile buttons with sidebar initially disabled.
As long as two extremes exist they can be combined in various ways.
Mm, though I'll have to do some work on mobile to get sidebar summaries to work.
Something looks off about the banner size. It's wider by one of the sidebar toggles but I think I have height to scale.
No.3356
>>3355Banners are 300x140, so while your height is pretty accurate, you need to at minimum double that to get a somewhat accurate width.
No.3358
i think i see, a screen isn't 1920px on a browser, it's less so it's going to ve wider
No.3359
>>3358It does look more reasonable when I have the zoom set to 100%, but for me, and I'm fairly certain others, they usually have their zoom much higher than that
https://puu.sh/FHiph/ead9d29974.png also even at 100% it's still a bit much on half-width
No.3360
likewise height is going to be reduced so it's off scale by a bit on X and Y. Things should fit because it's hard to write to scale, but container sizes are off
No.3361
>>3359for the puush at that level 947x966 it's a tablet so I'd use some degree of hiding the bar and adding items to the main page.
I might have to see how it works out live on the 1900x1000 or 1200x640 displays. It's more of a CSS thing than programming though so less risk of doing something wrong. Less risk if things can freely be moved across to the main page
No.3362
>>3357Not sure if this is what you're already planning but I think that this part would best be left static. Also not sure how small banners would look if kept in the center, but I think that on 4chan, if you're still intending on a little button for posting, it looks good
https://puu.sh/FHiph/ead9d29974.pngAnother problem I've got is that you have a big filtered button in the middle, but I think it'd be better served somewhere off in a corner and smaller. People hide threads for a reason and probably don't want to look at them all too much.
Also that's a pretty nice portrayal of me in that picture
No.3363
>>3361like the YouTube bar is similar principal. Expands when you need it, hidden when it's not.
No.3365
>>3362putting a new thread button there would save vertical space in the sidebar, potentially horizontal
No.3366
I've actually got no issues with the bar itself. Just that trying to integrate it with the banner probably isn't the best idea. If the banners were square and small that would be a different story, but with their width I just don't think it's possible. Though hmm, I guess if you compare it to the youtube bar it seems less obnoxious. However that doesn't account for people that may want to have the sidebar open at all time, though since it hasn't been introduced yet that's probably a non-issue
No.3373
>>3365yeah i don't know why you'd put new thread in the sidebar of all places, that button should be front and center, filter button not that important
No.3374
moving things around is trivial (assuming context api and no prop drilling).
Nav top bar, banner, create thread button looks like good shape on paper.
The former filtered button is big because it's not to scale.
I think I'll see how it goes. The summary on the homepage being moved was what I wanted to deal with and think if it were 270px wide it could fit it
No.3375
>>3374Think about it this way, the new post button is just about as important to the site as youtube's search bar is. So you want that available at all times, and not potentially hidden if the user hides the sidebar.
No.3376
>>3375I'm swapping the position of filtered with create. That's what you've said right
No.3378
Ah, I see, I must've misread somewhere
No.3380
Nice. I've been meaning to ask, but what's with the "Live" sorting
No.3381
>>3380dropdowns that change browsing behaviour.
default behavior will be live where you scroll and things get added in, alternate option is paged. Live is important for the style that site is going for on the index while catalog with have the more standard feel.
Sort by creation date, reply etc.
No.3382
>>3381Hm. Why not just call it infinite? I think that's the more traditional way of referring to scrolling until you load all threads. "Live" makes me think that I should be watching for new posts popping up
No.3383
>>3381if you mean the search menus it's just filtering content by search terms, though I'm not sure if it should just be a quick way to access kissu.moe/search.php
No.3384
>>3382to avoid stealing terminology from 4chanx because that would make it seem unauthentic. Though I forget what 4chanX calls it
No.3385
>>3384I don't think it's bad to take from an idea and keep the name as a reference to where your influence came from. Also "Live" kinda conflicts with the already existing "Live" used for liveboards
No.3386
>>3385it is bad because even if I were to want to not seem like it's not copying the idea, the word infinite makes me think of 8ch
No.3387
>>3386I'll leave the naming for later.
in any case, I have the idea for a summary window now on pc and moba. Tablet resolution I don't know if I want to consider it yet...
No.3468
>>3384Infinite scrolling is hardly a term unique to 4chan X.
>>3385Yeah, "live" makes me think it's going to be adding posts in real time.
>>3386"Continuous scrolling" is an alternate name, although it can be confused with smooth scrolling.