No.5484
>>5482I didn't delete it. It expired.
No.5485
>>5482>The only reason you're even still posting here is because every other imageboard you touch rots away into drama.Sounds legit specially when you consider
>>5453 and the fact places like ota are overflowing with this important /jp/ heritage making it a very charming place.
No.5486
And yeah, it was pretty much this:
>>5480 I dropped a casual mention of kissu in hopes of advertising there while also trying to hold a conversation with the mods as to which direction they were planning on taking 4/qa/ since they also purged off the soy spammers from there. Didn't even get banned.
>>5485What are you even talking about? Also, it's pissmin who's causing all this drama. He's the one who created this entire clown circus, not me.
No.5487
The mod accumulated a list of his posts and wants me to post it, but my problems are what he does outside of the site combined with the occasional utter garbage post.
>>>/test/1888
No.5489
>>5487https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1391026/For the sake of a fair judgement from everyone, here's also him at his worst back on 4/qa/.
No.5491
Users shouldn't be banned unless they can reasonably anticipate that their conduct might lead to a ban. Why not have a 3 strikes system? It could be something like this:
1. Warning: For any conduct detrimental to Kissu.
2. Ban of 30 days or less: Only for specifically prohibited offenses, or for users who continue to misbehave within 30 days after a warning.
3. Permabans or bans over 30 days: Only for illegal conduct, proxies/VPNs/Tor nodes, or users who continue to misbehave within 1 year after the lifting of a ban.
No.5492
>>5489¥first reply>You're annoying.>Хopoшopottery
No.5494
Somewhat surprised that nothing happened earlier given all that history
No.5495
>>5494*history between the two of you
No.5497
>>5491I like this, but I disagree with permabans, think that should be saved for the truly hopeless. Others can just be ban bans. Maybe even instating some kind of system where a /qa/ ban doesn't necessitate a site ban, like how before somebody got banned from the seasonal boards because they couldn't stop talking politics in it.
No.5500
>>5497Yeah, I was thinking more as a maximum ban that the administration could commit to not exceeding so that people don't end up with surprise permabans for their first offense if Vern makes a judgement about their post history they don't expect. But the specific numbers should be debated and adjusted.
No.5502
>>5487Just for clarity, the poster himself was onboard with his posts being shown so that others could evaluate whether vern was right in his decisions or not.
No.5503
meaningless
No.5505
>>5503It's not meaningless, posting a users history without their consent and encouragement is a whole hell of a lot worse than if you were to do so with it. That you don't realize this is baffling.
No.5506
>>5501Who are you calling a scum? Me or him? I gave permission for the mod to gather and post some of my post history since Hibikid had already revealed it in the butthurt public permaban anyway, but those are mostly just random posts instead of my individual threads. Please look at
>>5490 >>5498 as well.
Again, it's not a problem for me to just pack my stuff and leave. The only reason I post on kissu is because I'm friends with the mod and the co-admin. I would've left long ago if not for that since Hibikid has pissed me off more on multiple occasions with his antics.
No.5507
Man reading drama like this really takes me back to the olden days...I hated it then and I hate it now.
No.5508
if this is an attempt at engineering prime /qa/ drama then it's a damn good 1
No.5509
>>5507If only people were capable of taking it easy, all this could be avoided...
Truly a timeless principle
No.5510
>>5507>>5508>>5509I really didn't mean to cause any of it. It's 100% his fault.
Does it really look like I'm a bad poster who only seeks drama from my post history?
No.5511
>>5510It certainly is his fault for starting it, but you're not doing any good by continually picking at it trying to make things worse.
No.5512
>>5506>Who are you calling a scum?Vermin.
>I gave permission for the mod to gather and post some of my post history I still disagree with it happening to begin with. "Exposing" a user's post history is antithetical to the very concept of anonymity.
>>5510>Does it really look like I'm a bad poster who only seeks drama from my post history?Not particularly. To be fair... I wouldn't consider you "the best" of posters, but hardly worthy of a ban.
>>5511How? How? Giving a user the finger and excommunicating them is the most extreme option possible. For them not to defend themselves
at all, even if they do so in a way that's not flattering to their own image, would be ridiculous.
No.5513
>>5512Don't get me wrong, he has the right to defend himself, I just don't think that all his taunting is that necessary. Or his trying to bring off-board stuff into it as well like in
>>5481There was certainly no need to say something directly like that off of private chats.
No.5516
>>5515I agree, there was no reason for all this to ever become a public issue.
No.5517
>>5511>>5513Yeah, sorry about that, but I only have so much patience with a person. He constantly tries to piss off his own users on purpose and doesn't listen to actual arguments when they are provided.
>Or his trying to bring off-board stuff into it as well like inThis really didn't have much impact or consequence at all. Berun brought it up with him in a weird unnecessary way. It just fed into his retardation even more unfortunately, which is why he had to make this post later:
>>5480 No.5518
Is it over yet?
No.5519
>>5518yes
no
maybe
i don't know
can you repeat the question
No.5521
You're claiming to want descallation but this past conversation by has been anything but. There is no reasonable way this can be considered a resolution but rather attempts to strong arm everyone into a certain unshared perspective.
But for the benefit of Cool's sanity I'll stop pressing it for now.
No.5523
I don't give a shit about any of your interpersonal drama, but this isn't settled until the permaban is removed, or there is justification that he should have expected it.
No.5524
>>5523Cool says to stop so I'm stopping here.
No.5525
>>5524Alright. As I see it, the specifics of this case don't matter much. The issue is surprise permabans, and there should be a community consensus whether we have those or not. But maybe it would be for the best to have a new thread about that in a week or so when things have cooled down.
No.5526
>>5523I evaded the ban the moment it was issued if you didn't notice: >>>/qa/60308
>>>/qa/60312If he didn't ban me again when I did that then I guess it's because he was having second thoughts about it. He did it again in this thread but only because of berun making a mistake and saying something without a proper explanation that fed into his dumb shit even more.
No.5603
I don't care about vtubers, I have tried watching them a few times to see what they're all about but the appeal is lost on me. I never liked streamers and slapping an "anime"-style model onto them is not going to change that.
I'm guessing a lot of the kneejerk hate for them is like when KanColle got huge and artists who used to draw Touhou moved to KanColle and conventions were flooded with KanColle stuff. When something new seeps into the spaces you frequent and becomes inescapable, you begin to feel like remaining indifferent is not an option and you need to have an opinion on it (you don't).
Kuso thread. (the one I was going to post this in)
No.5604
>>5603Do people need an opinion on visual novels or manga adaptations? Even the question of sub vs dub doesn't require an opinion, but for some reason the way people enjoy media is more important than what's actually being discussed
No.5605
>>5603I don't think the comparison to KanColle is really an apt one. There simply wasn't a cult of personality behind the characters like vtubers have cultivated. Quite frankly, there wasn't one. More than anything, they resemble traditional idols, but the attention they draw is increased several fold by the fact that rather than needing to appear in media, or create and perform music, they themselves are the ones constantly putting out content, instead of occasionally appearing on some variety show, or radio show, or in acting roles. It's really no wonder then why the creative output of their fanbase is as high as it is: vtubers' constantly evolving nature means that artists and the like are encouraged to be more timely with their references to garner more recognition. This is in stark contrast with TV anime, for instance, where artists usually have a week to produce things if they want to make any specific references to what happened in the latest episode. Furthermore, the at least limited audience participation causes viewers to build a parasocial relationship with the streamer, making them more "possessive" and boisterous in their support for a given vtuber, since they feel more attached to them than they really are given the one-sided nature of the "relationship."
So, no, it's not like people complaining about Shimakaze or whatnot. It's more like people complaining about idols or K-pop.
No.5606
The mod team here is really proving to be humourless over-zealous assholes.
No.5607
*farts on you*
No.5608
*bans you*
No.5612
based on what
No.5613
based on real japanese history