No.120899
sperming over magical girls
No.120900
>>120896I feel you, anon. It's fucking magical how well they managed to capture the entire mindset behind it all.
She gets us, and we get her. Cherish that feeling.
No.120902
>>120901holy fuck this site is full of
TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNSSSS No.120903
yeah i'm a 14 year old girl
what of it
No.120906
>>120901Utena is way too young to dress like an old women!
No.120907
>>120906The clothes are her closet (or her shackles, if you will).
She herself is a bundle of sexual aggression and fetishes. If not for these clothes, she would not be able to have a civilian life.
No.120909
>>120908this anime is hella pasted
No.120910
>>120908Mahou shoujo can't be JKs. How the fuck is a JK a shoujo? Nobody wants to watch mahou hags.
No.120912
>>120910The anime probably won't show her, but this story has a 20-year-old magical girl.
No.120914
>>120910>>120911i dropped the hag version of precure because i was hoping they would transform into adult magical girls. they did not.
No.120915
>>120914What, seriously? How do they fight the evil guys then?
No.120918
>>120915they transform into the kid versions of themselves
No.120921
>>120920pleased to meat you Frieren
No.120922
>>120920they sure do enjoy making the food comical in this series
No.120923
>>120920seems the be a recent theme with elves and eating
No.120924
>>120923the announcement of the fat elf anime opened the psychic floodgates
No.120925
>>120920Hope frieren brings back skinny girls
No.120926
>>120920Looks like she's in a runescape PoH
No.120928
>>120927She wants to be skinny too. That's why she's eating an orange and tea
No.120931
love it when characters are literally me
No.120932
>>120931So, are you watching It's Time For Torture, Princess?
No.120935
>>120934Sadism has many motives beyond just pain, though. It could be because you want to see everything your lover can offer, positive and negative alike. It could be to help them overcome pain and grow from it as a person. It could be to instill a sort of dependence on you so you can protect them. I'd say in Utena's case it's a bit of all three.
No.120936
The chaotic good character
No.120939
>>120938Because they have a lezdom fetish. Same with every hentai series
No.120940
>>120938Also cuz immortal guild had inappropriate comedy in the titillating parts
No.120941
>>120938Futoku was the better show, but the ecchi was mostly boring monster stuff with old hags. Only perverts are actually aroused by that, normal people just think it's weird or funny. JCs being corrupted into sex-crazed sluts speaks to people on a primal level even if nothing around it is worthy of note.
No.120942
>>120941you know mangafags are really upset at the adaptation they're saying it's lots of filler with chapters shuffled around
No.120944
Remember when people said the Olympics were gonna neuter anime's sexuality
No.120945
>>120944dodged that bullet thanks to covid
No.120946
Should she rape old utena
No.120947
>>120943Toxic is a hag. A sexy hag, but a hag nonetheless. Only Maidena is a sex-crazed JC and she only got one decent ecchi scene that only showed up on the BDs. I guess there was the titty face girl too, but she also lacked action.
Anyway, the point is that tentacle bondage and slime dissolving clothing is pantyshot-tier fanservice and that two humans engaging in lewd acts with purpose is infinitely more ecchi.
No.120948
>>120938I am a creature of sexual desire, yes. But that doesn't mean that I automatically perk up and lose my mind each time there's a pair of tits on the screen. I need more than that to titillate me. Further, to actually gain my appreciation an anime needs to go above and beyond in excelling at character and passion to endear me to it. Futoku no Guild was fun, and had some nice ecchi and comedy to it, but that's most of what it was. Laid back and
nice. It never allowed me to quiver in excitement or lose myself to the screen. Something that MahoAko does constantly.
Utena's passion for magical girls doesn't lie in her want to corrupt them, but rather a twisted desire born from her admiration of them (Hence 'Akogarete' in the title that the tard localizers tl'd to "gushing over" in its english version).
>>120935 probably put it best in that Utena's sadism is in part a way for her to acquire a greater understanding of the totality of those magical girls she's cheered on. She wants to see them suffer and struggle, beaten to the last ounce of strength, and then she wants them to stand up with pride that overcomes and defeats her deviant attacks. Of course, there's also the sexual aspect to her acts that she gets off on, enjoying the pleasure and pain she's forcing on the girls. But that fantastical roleplaying element is first and foremost. This is shown best in the latest episode where she
loses interest and instead shows disgust when Azul shows signs of succumbing to pleasure. She may be horny and sadistic as all hell but she has principles. Which I respect and see her as more of an actual character for rather than ecchi convenience device. This anime and its main character don't just objectify magical girls for cheap sexual gratification, they genuinely love them.
In my specific case as well, I'm somewhat of a sadist myself so I thoroughly enjoy the ecchi put forth by the anime. It's done extremely well in a way that ticks all my boxes for enjoyment. Including a divergence between myself and Utena where I more enjoy the breaking down of Azul's will, but at the same time in my AI stories as soon as that's done I'm also done with the character since there's nothing more to play with so in my own way I find her continuing the struggle against that pleasure hotter. There's probably also some subtlety's in the way the scenes are directed that make them more eyecandy to me than stuff in Futoku no Guild as well, but that's harder to really articulate since it's not my brain doing the thinking in that case. Add on top of all of this that the seiyuu cast is absolutely phenomenal (despite having a fair bit of rookies including Utena for whom it's her first real role!) and it just makes every single scene that much better. I have to think that my enjoyment may only have been 2/3rds of what it currently is if not for this god-tier cast and the effort they put into the roles.
When it comes to the rest of the cast I can't help but love them as well. Venerita's unabashed and comical propensity towards evil gives me a chuckle every time. Alice is extremely cute, though we haven't seen too much of her. I like how her power reverses the roles others normally would assume over her as a sleepy and shy loli with the implication of her being truly open and honest inside of her playhouse. Kiwi's a bit bratty but I like her one-sided possessiveness of Utena and hot blooded nature. Then speaking of hot blooded that brings me to Sulphur who's probably my favorite outside of Utena right now. Her accent combined with her Yankee mentality and absurd strength make for a sight to behold and stare in awe at as she tears off the kiddie gloves when not in the public eye. Magenta more than the rest is the perfect mold of what a proper typical pink is: pure-hearted, empathetic and outgoing, a firm believer in justice, and a bit of a baka. Azure is a fat cow that struggles against her instinctual animal heat and I love watching her mind slowly break through discovering her M side. Vatz acting as more of an idol manager than magical girl mascot is pretty funny as well. In addition to the charms of each character, the anime knows how to utilize them for interactions with each other well, and some of the developing character dynamics like between Baiser and Kiwi or Magenta and Alice give me great pleasure.
The story too is just the right mix of serious and silly, where most of the Tres Magia vs Enormita is treated as more of a playful bout, even by the team leads Vatz and Venerita, while there does seem to be a reason in the grander picture for why the magical girls even exist.
No.120949
>>120948I think 'gushing over' was supposed to be a lewd pun more than an over localization, really
No.120950
>>120949I guess that could make sense
No.120951
The censorship of dialogue was new to me and really really dumb.
No.120952
>>120948As someone who knows mahou shoujo fans, this analysis is true for a lot of real magical girl fans, who tend to be much more fetishistic than most other "sub-fanbases"(?) of the anime fandom.
Tags for precure can get quite /d/ for example, and the volume of this content is surprising considering how niche this genre is among adults
No.120953
>>120948Thank you for the thorough response. I guess that was another thing I was going to mention; I don't like how mean it is. Immoral Guild is happy, although there is a bit of bullying that ends up not affecting the characters at all. It's a "Kyaaah~ kimo!" instead of mentally breaking them. They're still happy girls enjoying life.
>>120949Yeah, after googling it it says that it means "yearning" so it doesn't seem some bastardization to me. I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention this on nyaa in the first upload. 'Gushing' seems like a witty double entendre to me, but it's true that it's not a direct translation.
No.120954
They should've had the fat dog get fully /ss/'d. That would've saved it in peoples minds I think
No.120956
>>120948>This anime ... don't just objectify magical girls for cheap sexual gratificationIt absolutely does. They have about as much depth as the average hentai mahou shoujo. The most significant relationship building they've done so far is people wanting to befriend the girl who doesn't talk because they have Alice Syndrome.
No.120958
>>120948> >>120935 probably put it best in that Utena's sadism is in part a way for her to acquire a greater understanding of the totality of those magical girls she's cheered on.I'm mostly just projecting examples my own sadistic motives there, given Utena so far has been basically an accidental self-insert.
That being said, seeing Azure's mind slowly melting with lust is where the two of us diverge. I loved seeing her fall apart and would have playfully teased and blue-balled her about being the miserable slut she is. Utena was genuinely disgusted by her though, which is understandable if you consider she has a much bigger history and more expectations towards Tres Magia compared to me just wanting to push every button of every girl (especially Sulphur).
No.120959
>>120958The other big difference, of course, is that she is a 14 year old girl who is only just exploring her sexuality for the first time - there's nothing abnormal about her having particular expectations, boundaries, and disgust responses to sexual situations that someone more experienced would lack.
Who knows how much of a degenerate she'll be when she gets to your age?
No.120960
>>120938I can't speak for others (obviously), but when I read the manga of Immoral Guild, I just found it meaningless.
They head out into the woods and get molested. By accident.
Then they go home.
The cycle repeats and repeats. Because there is no intelligent belligerent force, the molestation is not a temporary falling-behind in a prolonged struggle (against that antagonist), but rather a personal failure. Like a clumsy person might stumble and fall on her face.
But then it happens again and again and again.
It's frustrating. You read of the misadventures of a band of buffoons who lack the faculties to fix their lives.
There's also a boy with them who keeps getting blueballed when his teammates are getting up to sexy stuff around him whereas he is never getting any.
From every perspective, the story was just endlessly frustrating.
No.120961
>>120956they absolutely have way more of a personality than any stock and/or gimmick characters
but honestly it's utena that carries the hardest
>>120960the cycle of tard
Anyways, I went and read the manga up to volume 9, and can say last episode with Azur's recruitment flashback and breaking point was indeed delayed and actually takes place after right Alice's introduction, it's episode 10 in vol 2 and would've been like, episode 4 rather than 6. After that there's some long plot development that'll kick off next week. Some of the things we were shown like Magenta and Alice playing together or Kaoruko's flashback take place way later, in volumes 6/7.
Anyways, I enjoyed it a fair bit. The mindbreak will continue until morale improves.
No.120962
Two anyways..... that's what happens when I write out stuff separately
No.120964
>>120963I'm not sure if her eyes count as stars or not, But I think her 2* + eye* form losing losing means they aren't
No.120965
>>120963[spoiler]Utena can grow as many stars as she pleases, if she gets motivated enough. But Lord Ernorme doesn't motivate her at all. She's just a boring childish woman.
No.120966
>>120965Oops. Sorry for my newness. Apparently this image board does not operate by the same tag rules as 4chan (and 4chan X is currently blocking the standard interface. I guess I'll have to deactivate that).
In any case, it's not a massive spoiler, so I'll just let it stand as is.
No.120968
>>120966Welcome to kissu! It's good to see a new poster! It uses its own, uhh... what was the word...
markup? Assuming you're in the
new UI you can see buttons at the bottom to do stuff. Spoiler is the asterisk (*). There's also
hotkeys but I can never remember them.
spoiler here No.120969
Pretty sure the normal spoiler tags work too don't they
No.120970
Yeah,
>>120965 just forgot to close the spoiler bracket.
No.120971
>>120968That new UI was disabled when I played around with the settings. Since I still had my 4chan X quick reply box, I didn't think it mattered. I switched back now. Even if it means that things look different from home. Maybe that's for the best.
>>120970I didn't forget that. On 4chan, you don't need to close the spoiler. What I forgot was that I wasn't on 4chan.
No.120972
dumb forgetard
(just kidding, welcome newfriend!)
No.120973
what's utena's character design say?
No.120974
>>120971>On 4chan, you don't need to close the spoilerAre you sure? It's been like 10 years since I had to type them out manually, but I feel like I've seen spoiler fails from people not closing them.
No.120975
maybe it uses the idea that tags that don't close never terminate, but I thought it was explicit. Anyways, you only see it used on /a/
No.120976
Forgot to update: I read the whole thing and damn, it's excellent. It really manages to work with the premise in a myriad ways, it's not
simply ecchi, it develops things and takes the premise into every avenue imaginable. For me some of the strongest peaks are chapters 34-35 and ESPECIALLY 51-52, which has a stellar twist combined with a long-prepared culmination. Although the beach, hotel, OTP correction, dungeon, and Alice's game are all parts I enjoyed very much as well. It makes
>>120960's comparison even stronger that they go through so many situations and different takes on their encounters. As for characters beyond Utena, I have to say my favorite is Sulfur, not just her initial twist of being a quarreler but also her progression into
the single noble uncorrupted magical girl, and the LocoLeber pair.
The changes I mentioned in
>>120961 can make it seem as if there's a lot of inconsequential back and forth, but that's due to these chapters being shuffled around or disconnected from what they were building up to, presumably in order to give more relevance to Tres Magia which don't have as great a role in the story pre-Enorme compared to after it.
Oh, there's also an Anonymous that colors panels with the artist's high-contrast palette from his volume covers and other illustrations (ononaka_akihiro, interestingly a lecturer on manga), their work has been compiled into an ex gallery:
https://exhentai.org/g/2809877/b1847a985c/It's beautiful and has tons of personality. Massive spoilers, of course, do not click unless you don't care about it.
>>120973Her civilian attire and attitude is very muted, reserved, wearing a long white skirt down to her heels, and shirt of the same color with sweater on top. But her transformed costume is perhaps the one with the greatest frontal exposure, and the metaphor there is obvious. Her horns are bluntly demonic more so than any other character
and get even bigger when unleashed, while her large frilled skirt (still exposed at the front) and wings grant her figure a greater presence as leader of the pack. Dark leather and high heels add to her role as dominatrix, too.
No.120977
>>120974Yes, I am sure.
And even if you refuse to post on 4chan, you can get confirmation of this since there are plenty of spoilered posts with typos in the closing spoiler tag. They would not be spoilered if the closing spoiler tag was necessary.
Here is an example:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/263342999/#263343170>>120975Spoilers used to be so much fun, back when they still allowed you to play around with them as you pleased, with inline greentexting and whatnot. Nowadays, all they can do is break greentext.
No.120978
>>120977Kissu's markup is extermely strongYou can even inject your own CSS as long it doesn't contain URLs
No.120979
One of our posters knows how to do this pretty well and can create inline images
But I don't really know too much about the possibilities Even though I created it. Also hotkey for spoilers can be seen when mousing over. Alt+8 creates a spoiler
No.120982
>>120981It gets way more lewd
No.120983
>>120981>I feel like it could get repetitive quicklyYou'd think, but it actually keeps itself quite varied and constantly evolving.
No.120985
>>120984Amateur-tier. I've heard AI-generated art cover ASMR do better.
No.120986
>>120985Yeah, it's not an amazing ASMR. Think some people are just more naturally talented at it than others
>Amateur-tierIs kinda funny to say because Utena's VA is actually a complete amateur
https://anidb.net/creator/59120 and despite this I feel she's killing it as Utena.
No.120991
>>120989Oh I didn't even listen to it for more than a minute, yeah that's kind of a weird ASMR idea...
No.120994
>>120993yes that's my point
No.120995
>>120908Utena is wife material.
No.121560
This show is great and I'm sad we're only getting a few more episodes this season. I wish they would have had the funds to do 24 episode season and adapted more of the story. I've been holding off on reading more of the manga until the anime finishes. Since I don't want to spoil myself more than I already have (I got up to the intro to Lord fight).
I know I'll burn through the rest of the chapters in a half day a few weeks from now.
I got several people to watch this show which was kind of surprising since they don't usually share my taste in anime. My friend's girlfriend has already banned him from watching any more of it. I told him not to watch it with her because I knew she'd get jealous. But he wouldn't listen.
I'm so happy they used protection during the intense hand-holding last episode. This show promotes good values.
No.121561
>>121560Is the studio even big enough to do that many episodes at once?
No.121564
>>121561My worry is despite being a break out hit they won't get back around to doing a season 2 any time soon. Even if they do they might not be able to get the same cast back for it. I really hate when something like this gets adapted then they stop making new episodes right as the story is getting good.
They did 12 on a shoestring budget. I don't see why they couldn't do 12 more with the merchandise, BD and other forms of profit they've made off this project. It has already paid for itself many times over along with boosting the careers of everyone involved.
Sometimes I wish anime in Japan was managed like western cartoons were back in the 90s. Where they'd sometimes do 36+ episodes over the course of a couple of years. Then green light another run of 24+ after a couple of years of showing reruns. I do like the variety we get with so many 12 episode anime series per season. But most of the time I'd trade the 3-4 bottom-tier shows each season for 1 good continuation. There are tons of series that never got a second season that would have done very well simply because it was impossible to get some of the original cast back due to other obligations (or the fact that they waited 10+ years and everyone involved is already dead)
No.121565
>>121564This is not about budgeting, but about actual people doing actual work.
They divide into different teams each of which then tackles an episode. Of course, they share some of their labor force. But some key members will be busy from beginning to end of the episode's creation, and can't be employed elsewhere.
The anime industry of today consists of lots of small studios, and when they aren't actively hired to work on something, they work as subcontractors for the studios that are. It's a system designed to mass-produce single-cour anime.
There are still a few giants, of course. But outside of shonen, there is not actually a lot of demand for long-running anime.
No.121566
>>121565Shonen and those family anime that have been continously running since like the 70s
No.121567
The powerlevel stuff in the last episode was dumb.
No.121569
If Utena wore panties, do you think they would gain more stripes the more excited Utena gets?
No.121572
An interesting touch is that you can see her count going down as punishment progresses. Very subtle, I hadn't noticed it but it's in the manga too. Chuuni not so chun after being molested.
It's a nice collage, don't you think?
>>121567I do dislike the constant mention of stars in the Gigant and Enorme fights as well as their leadup, it's my least liked part of the story, reminds me of Kaminaki's second half talking about follower count all the time when none of the fights are won based on raw power levels. But, after this it becomes established that power and transformations are based on exploring one's feelings and passions and it flows much better. I also think the impact of Kiwi's first transformation is much weaker than everyone else's later la Verità.
>>121565That sounds really interesting, do you have any material going deeper into it?
No.121574
>>121572>>121573The difference between png and jpg compression is insane. The png one is literally ten times bigger.
No.121579
>>121572I do not, unfortunately. Most of my understanding stems from Shirobako, with a few tidbits from discussions with other anons, such as when people asked about split-cour shows.
I remember seeing a chart that nicely visualized the different episodes being worked on in tandem, each demonstrated a by a bar that was several months long (but I can't remember how many months exactly) and, barring accidents, finishing just in time for airing.
>>121574It is partly the fault of anon (though I don't blame him since he never planned on publishing the png in the first place). I managed to compress it to 6.37 MB, which is of course still too big for its purpose.
No.121580
>>121572Whats the point of breaking down a woman like this if she never loses to the cock
No.121581
>>121580sounds like a you(ri) problem
No.121582
>>121580Cocks do not appear to exist in that universe, so the question of how girls are impregnated is still up in the air.
But the point of breaking a woman like this is so
she turns into a bratty loli with a weak butt. No.121584
>>121583It is a spoiler in context
No.121585
>>121583No, that's a legitimate spoiler box. Do not read.
No.121587
dumb surprise boxtard.
No.121588
>>121587The mistake is understandable since the content of the spoiler could also be seen in the episode being discussed.
No.121589
>>121582This is truer than you think.
No.121590
>>121589I don't think scissoring among the clouds can be an explanation for yuri pregnancies. Otherwise, how would they have procreated prior to the invention of aeroplanes?
Or are you suggesting that men were only eradicated after that point?
No.121592
Although the scene is rather confusing, what happens is that
the lolification occurs purely inside of Utena's mind. Other people
still see her as spanking an adult woman.
>>121590Oh, no, I mean about the spoiler. The current scientific consensus is that procreation happens when ahoges touch in an intimate setting. The course of events in the absence of ahoge continues to be a source of heated controversy.
No.121593
I thought she bent reality like Alice does with her dollhouse.
No.121594
>>121593She just hypnotized herself so that her opponent's mindset wouldn't seem so dumb and boring, but instead cute and bratty.
No.121595
>>121594i'll live with my headcannon
No.121908
>>121902The manga does very much have inbetween chapters of lower stakes or sillier stuff, like Korisu's playground encounter with Magenta that was moved to way earlier, or yesterday's episode whose first half is chapter 21 while the second is from 42. A concern with this is that the future pacing for S2 is kinda screwed, but it's self-evident that they did a good job. Also, Utena's fundamental goal is to keep the back and forth going, that's the entire reason she came to be at odds with Enorme. Her akogare is eternal.
>Also Baiser is getting more and more brazen with her horniness...An observation most pertinent to the events as they later unfold beyond the adaptation. Consequences await.
No.122411
>>121908Coming off the final episode, the inbetween chapters made for a perfect finale to the season that left open the chance of a continuation while also wrapping things up in a satisfying manner. Venarita's scheming and the wider world of Mahou Shoujo are still out there, but for now in Utena's hometown she's satisfied with having achieved an ideal balance. She can peacefully play out her role as the villain while toying with her idols. Glad they didn't try to go for an anime original end so the massive success can be capitalized for a second season.
Although here's hoping that they can upgrade to a better studio with a larger budget in S2, since that was probably my biggest gripe with the anime.
No.126505
>>126490Yeah, I'd imagine the moans add a bit more to the scenes to give you a complete experience.
No.126543
>>126490Damn, no wonder that guy cares about banding.