Anonymous 11/08/24 (Fri) 20:33:31 No. 135035 >>135057
Something I learned about the game industry is that the top leadership come from food manufacturing. So they bring the practices of running their industry into another simply because they had the money and past experience with a specialization. So I have to wonder if the people who focus so much on evaluations are maybe like automobile executives or other such manufacturing who don't understand developer culture
Anonymous 11/08/24 (Fri) 20:34:01 No. 135036
i want to lick don's sweaty feet
Anonymous 11/08/24 (Fri) 21:10:16 No. 135037
why the FUCK is every dev doing/getting reports MONTHLY??? i do those retrospectives fucking biyearly that is a hemorrhage of time, tally up all the projected work hours spent on it and tell those fuckers it's not very agile of them that you actually do want devs to work, on other things or don't, because i have no idea what the structure of your company is and whether they put all that stuff to work but it's definitely not THE way to do management
Anonymous 11/08/24 (Fri) 23:47:12 No. 135040
>>135038 hi ainz thank you
Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 00:04:29 No. 135042 >>135045
>>135038 >SAFe Isn't that just agile principles reframed into a waterfall that PMs could swallow?
Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 00:33:14 No. 135045
>>135042 Atleast for me it's more like pretending to be waterfall to PMs so devs can be Agile, but yes.
A lot of business process peoples like it more since it gives them the illusion of planning out stuff each quarter.
Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 15:05:47 No. 135057
>>135035 >Something I learned about the game industry is that the top leadership come from food manufacturing. What do you mean by that? The games industry is a big industry.
Anonymous 11/10/24 (Sun) 12:02:26 No. 135073
you have way too much fucking management and processes
Anonymous 11/10/24 (Sun) 13:11:07 No. 135074 >>135080
yeah you should really look into getting someone to manage all that management and process
Anonymous 11/10/24 (Sun) 13:18:29 No. 135075
We could just simplify managing these process by creating a system or a new manifesto tailored to our specific use case
Anonymous 11/10/24 (Sun) 17:40:32 No. 135080
>>135074 >yeah you should really look into getting someone to manage all that management and process I'm the manager... But I'm not allowed to change the processes as it's a huge company that has been "working fine" this way since 10 years ago and my boss thinks I just want to "work less" when I point out to him the devs are annoyed with all the reports and performance reviews.
Anonymous 11/10/24 (Sun) 18:05:49 No. 135081
>>135034 >productivity means creating more processes The more work there is to do, the bigger the department needs to be.
The bigger the department is, the more power its leadership holds.
Streamlining is only good when it requires picking up completely new tasks as a prerequisite, even better if those tasks come from "integrating" with another department.
Never reduce work on a procedural level because that leads to reduction of heads, reduction of funding, and reduction of political weight.
If you must improve things, improve them unofficially by quietly skipping steps while producing the same output on paper.
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 00:52:48 No. 135098 >>135099
this thread made me physically ill
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 01:02:42 No. 135100
ill sager
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 01:21:19 No. 135105 >>135111
>>135099 i really really wish that was the case
i stopped being one a year and half ago
while not a dev i work in IT support and this whole review corpo talk reminded me of my own reviews (i'm the one being reviewed though)
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 01:30:49 No. 135106
360 noscope reviews
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 04:04:50 No. 135111 >>135112
>>135105 OP here.
You reminded me I also get reviewed:
- Every quarter: by the client, my manager, my peers, PMO, people from other areas (finance, IT, account managers, etc) and also by the devs that report to me.
(Also every week I'm audited by PMO for process compliance)
What a wonderful world!!!!
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 11:02:59 No. 135112
>>135111 That sounds like some strait up East German or Elan School petty control.
The few times I was ever given a self review I always would put just the maximum score for everything, because it was time wasting and they were going to knock me down a peg and tell me what they want me to do anyways.
Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 15:23:14 No. 135117
>>135034 >The few times I was ever given a self review I always would put just the maximum score for everything, because it was time wasting and they were going to knock me down a peg and tell me what they want me to do anyways. That's what I always do because I know for a fact that salary reviews are directly linked to these scores. I also know for sure that my manager never gives me full marks, no matter what because "nobody is perfect"