No.113272
I've never liked weeb, it was always something used to insult others and that's even apparently where the word originates from.
Whereas Otaku in the west is a word that only people interested in Otaku culture would know about and it's not used insultingly here, or at least I have not seen it used that way.
No.113277
>>113273>WapaneseWe've been over this, it means "wannabe Japanese" in the same ilk as wigger
No.113278
>>113277Ohh, yeah, brain fart. I confused it with the other racial stuff
No.113280
>>113273>It's not supposed to be "cool" or trendy or something you put on a dating profile.lots of people put it on their dating profile in japan
No.113282
Yeah, but in Japan it has a different meaning, this stuff happens with loanwords
No.113283
That may also be why the birthrates are so low
No.113284
I guess, but while there's still plenty of people who are private about their otaku interests, the number of people who wear the label on their shoulder and are are openly enthusiastic has been increasing. It's cooler and trendier to be an otaku now that it has even been.
No.113286
>>113271>WOW I like ANIME, i'm so TRASHThis has to be a couple years out of date
No.113287
Why cant westerners just call themselves "anime fans" or "manga aficinadios" or "jrpg pro"
No.113289
>>113288lmfao, i would unironically use that term more then Otaku or Weeb
No.113290
I'd be flattered to be called an otaku.
No.113291
weeb is considered an americanism here and hardly ever used, the universal catch-all term is otaku
it doesn't have the connotation of extremity or being too mentally ill
and frankly i think that's for the best
No.113292
>>113291But otaku does have a negative connotation in Japan, though. It's like a warning that someone is a little too into their hobby (trains or anime or whatever).
No.113293
>>113292yeah what i mean is that it's lighter here
No.113294
>>113292true, according to both Oxford languages (the dictionary google uses) and merriam webster, they both define it as an obsession rather then being an normal interest
No.113295
>>113292I wonder if transport otaku are as weirdly combative and shitposty as western ones
No.113296
>>113291>here>>113293>herejust spit it out
No.113297
>>113296a galaxy far far away
No.113299
>>113295nip rail fans are detested for being aggressive and breaking laws to get photos
No.113301
so is wakfu "franimation"
No.113302
>>113300I am SHOCKED at how many people had childhood crushes on Katara
No.113303
>>113301Francophone comics and cartoons are distinct enough I do think they should have a name in English but they are unpopular unless you're ouiaboo or learning French
No.113304
>>113300I've seen King of the Hill mentioned as anime, in a serious manner
No.113305
I am shocked, SHOCKED, to find that people had childhood crushes on Katara
No.113306
>>113301>>113303There are a lot of French cartoons that most people probably would not even know are French, like Totally Spies and Arcane. So it's probably less useful than Japanimation.
But then maybe the stuff not aired on western TV is completely different and warrants it's own Label. I don't know I have only seen Wakfu and that was to learn French.
No.113307
>>113306I think nowadays you would be able as the raciness is unique when exported outside of Europe.
Certainly in the English speaking world
No.113308
>>113307And I mean now as in that people are aware of francophone cartoons being like that, english speakers have always been prudes compared to them
No.113310
I think westerners who insist on being called "otaku" are the exact type of people the word "weeaboo" was meant to describe.
No.113311
>>113310Its just the adoption of a loanword at this point
No.113312
Genuine weeaboo are a very rare sight, part of that I think the LDP becoming more visible internationally, as well as the expat community online made it less appealing as a greener grass country
No.113313
>>113312But there's a lot of koreaboo despite Yoon Suk Yeol and the PPP so maybe not
No.113314
>>113311A loanword that only niche communities use because they're too cool to use the English version of the term?
No.113315
>>113314No because the connotation of the english word changed
No.113316
>>113310in english "weeb" has the issue of
>>113309 with all the legacy of ironic weebs and right now reddit animemes
while weeaboo has very high standards
>>113314anglophone communities sure, but hispanic ones uncontroversially use otaku
that's half a billion people right there
the funny way to say it is "otaco" and the general negative nerd is "friki"
No.113318
>>113315What connotation change? That more people call themselves "nerds" and you don't want to be associated with them? That's hipsterism, and choosing the Japanese word as your new, unique alternative is weeabooism.
No.113319
>>113318No like it was said, it went from ken-sama to more shitposty people, I'm sure if it was still near slur level it would be used more
No.113320
Generally, I try not to read too much into whatever labels are (mis-)used by commoners, if I find a broad contradiction in their speech, my attention vanishes instantly or at best I feel amused. It's a privilege to not associate with normals and pseudo-non-normals whatsoever.
No.113321
Personally I blame early 2010s youtube, desparate for "cringe" content, calling everyone a weeaboo
No.113322
I'm literally just some guy
No.113324
>>113318pic, the term somehow goes back to 2013/14 and exploded during 2016/17
its usage peaked in 2018
>>113321yeah, this
No.113342
>>113316That's interesting, but I can't say I really agree with it since I retain my opinion that barely anyone outside of Japan would qualify for it. But, words have different meanings in different cultures I suppose. Is there a separate term for an actual obsessive
otaku person then?
>>113324God, images like that are horrendous...
No.113344
>>113342>actual obsessive otaku personnot otaku specifically no
just friki, a freak
but in practice it's focused on gamers and japaficionados
No.113350
>>113316>while weeaboo has very high standardsI don't get that sense
To me "weeb" means someone who's less of a fan than a "weeaboo", who in turn is less of a fan than an "otaku"
I think
>>113310 is historically correct about the type of people the word "weeaboo" was meant to describe. But the intensity of the thing it described went down over time.
No.113352
>>113320>It's a privilege to not associate with normals and pseudo-non-normals whatsoever.then you'll miss out on skibidi toilet
No.113355
>>113271I've never been a huge fan of either, but I prefer 'weeb' because it's a bit less serious and a bit more self-aware. I associate 'otaku' with the sort of people who want to move to Japan because they think it'll be like anime in real life.
>>113324That image pisses me off.
No.113364
>>113352You're on a list for liking that
No.113365
>>113364you already said that on /secret/
No.113367
>>113365It was so pasted I literally copy and pasted it
No.113368
what do you even do with a list of 100000000 skibidi toilet fans
No.116419
I suppose I'd consider myself a hobbyist?
I don't feel comfortable calling myself either. I feel like these terms equally denote caring about anime, or Japanese media more broadly, to the extent that it's a defining trait about yourself. I've certainly watched lots of anime, read some manga here and there, learned about Japan, and picked up a fraction of the language... But... I don't really care? As in, I certainly know far more than the average person, but I'm not particularly passionate or obsessed, which "weeb" and "otaku" strike me as being. To me, as someone else mentioned, an otaku is someone who has a near encyclopedic knowledge on something, like knowing production dates, studios, VAs, producers and animation directors, and who takes an active role in their hobby like buying merchandise and cosplaying. I'm nowhere close to that. "Ween" on the other hand suggests an almost Dunning-Kruger level of ignorance with shallow interests, but still an intense passion; I feel like battle shounen fans fit this sort of definition. Again, not me...
No.116420
hehe ween
No.116421
minor spelling mistake
kill him
No.116422
There are no mistakes, only the subconscious briefly taking over to share its true thoughts
No.116427
>>113277Prior to weeaboo's introduction, people were writing out wapanese and that continued even as weeaboo replaced it. Not sure who you went over this with but they probably weren't around during the early days on 4chan.
No.116510
>>113316I prefer to be called
friki over
otaku because the first still has the degrading tone of
freak which describes me perfectly I'm just a disgusting freak from a Spanish speaking country.
No.116512
friki diki
No.116513
el frikiao frikiadito
No.116515
>>116510but yeah personally i haven't been referred to as such and i even feel the word is actually kinda rare
it still being in use is neat