No.122567
>>122566> in Japan.I don't live in Japan
No.122568
I was just in the comment section of a guy in ci-en who has a lot of talent but his day job is a Systems Engineer which takes up most of his time. If he had better market he could make it full time.
That's the reality of Visa/Mastercard bans. That guy makes worse games and others don't make them at all
No.122569
>>122559I mostly gripe on crypto for the community pushing more for scams and get rich quick schemes over actually trying to make the use of it more mainstream so that we can overcome the tyranny of payment processors. I feel like everything surrounding it has created a terrible image that makes most sites not want to accept crypto for some dumb reason or another.
No.122570
>>122568Oversea market for doujin stuffs is negligible (hardcore otaku only, everyone else pirates) compared to domestic market.
No.122571
>>122570Overseas is 10%.
China is another 25%
you don't know jack shit about what you're talking about
No.122572
Hell, I'd say the Chinese market is under 50% on some creators
No.122575
>>122571>10%Rounding error.
>China is another 25%You have no idea how Chinese pay for these things (protip: not Visa and Mastercard)
>>122573>>122574What's the point? YOU are a rounding error, period.
No.122576
>>122558>>122568I only see this accelerating the trend of Japanese eroge devs releasing their games on Steam. Which is a good thing for the Devs themselves if they do it as it's a much bigger market.
I have mixed feelings about it's impact on the games themselves though, but then
>>122064 did manage to get through(however I never played the steam release so I'm not sure if they changed it or not).
No.122577
>>122575I got it dude. 12,000$ is nothing to you. You must be fucking rich
No.122578
>>122577Insignificant compared to the other $120,000 from other markets. 10% is probably less than the tax charged.
No.122579
>>122578Do you even have a job?
No.122580
>>122579Yes, one which requires advanced degree.
btw $12,000 is like nothing nowadays, too much for a NEET yet too little to do anything useful with it.
No.122581
dumb argumentative shitposter.
No.122582
>>122580You're so delusional.
>>122581Bad thread for this
No.122583
>>122580YOU WOULD GIVE UP A FREE CAR WITH NO LOANS!
No.122585
... and bumping this thread so it's visible (moved posts don't bump)
No.122587
oh my god, you are so fucking stupid just because you want to defend the idea that your monitary contribution to an industry is pointless
No.122588
Your argument is based in no logical fact other than how you want to defend that you pirate your entertainment despite apparently making 6 figures
No.122589
If you're making 6 figures and think 12,000 is nothing. Go ahead and buy Kissu a server. I will pick it out for you and give you my address.
No.122591
>>122590Because that's where there's a lot of datacenters and you can get some good hosting in the desert through nuclear power prices, easy to dump heat into a dry desert and government subsadies
No.122603
>>122576It puts all their products at the mercy of a single American company.
Regardless of what their current policies are, you have to plan ahead for what their policies might be by the time you want to sell your game, and those policies might be mandated by American law.
This is not to say that either valve or the USA are evil. But whenever you thread a significant portion of your media through a single such outlet, the consequences will be visible.
No.122604
>>122578Let me just point out that profit is usually the result of a subtraction.
To visualize:
Revenue
-Costs
------
Profit
If you think that ~10% of your total revenue is meaningless, for most companies, such a percentage may very easily be greater than the actual profit. The majority of companies do not have profit margins in excess of 10%.
This is not a rounding error unless you are a terrible businessman.
No.122607
>>122576>I only see this accelerating the trend of Japanese eroge devs releasing their games on Steam. Which is a good thing for the Devs themselves if they do it as it's a much bigger marketMore western censorship. It's a horrible thing for everyone.
No.122608
>>122607You talk like this as if anyone who draws lolicon is actually a good artist and not just coasting off of an easy to market niche.
No.122610
Meanwhile your dumb take is forcing artists to release their games behind the worst mosaicing that destroys their art
No.122613
>>122612
yeah and that's the end of the list
No.122614
Don't delete your mistakes, I will see them
No.122615
I can pick about 5-8 lolicon artists who actually have tallent and the rest are just pure garbage. Then the ones that sell on DLSite charge 2x the cost of normal content
No.122616
>>122608>is actually a good artistnigger what?
¥Kinomoto Anzu¥Henreader¥Tanabe Kyou¥Rustle¥Higashiyama Show¥Onizuka Naoshi¥Quzilax¥Fuyutugu¥Hikoma Hiroyuki¥Tsubaki Jushirou¥Atte Nanakusa¥MUK¥Satuyo¥HaguhaguThis is just going off of h-manga I could distinctly remember and it took me a bit because I forgot the names of some of them. If I went through my art folders I'd certainly find more.
No.122620
also was debating whether to include ichihaya and sakamata nerimono but they probably deserve to be noted for their style
No.122622
forgot Sabaku too yoruko is amazing...
No.123668
This is another reminder to set your location to Japan on pixiv. Loli tags had already been blocked for people with a location set in in US/UK and other countries and now it's extending to other R18 stuff. This text looks like a boilerplate thing that companies like Patreon must comply with to not be erased by the almighty credit card monopolies:
https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=10830https://pixiv1.app.box.com/s/6uq41xs25m092e6co1vor3r98kr4embvI think a lot of this could have been avoided if pixiv and others would haven taken a stand against realistic AI stuff and the illegal stuff that happens in its comments, or AI in general since it's what opened the floodgates to all this stuff.
There really needs to be some sort of solution to this so people can still enjoy ero 2D stuff since a foul wind has only intensified...
No.123669
>>123668The solution would be for the western world to give up on regulating fictional pornography since nobody is physically affected by its existence. It's not Japan that needs to change for draconian laws.
No.123671
>>123670In that case artists and the wider world in general should really try to start making crypto payments a reality since then we'd no longer be constrained to the ridiculous demands of card processing companies.
No.123672
>>123668Is it even feasible to take a stand against all AI art in general? Feels impossible if people just remove the metadata from their stuff that gives away it being AI. Either way just another case of Japan splitting its net further from foreigners because of their annoying nature. Eventually we'll be back to when the jp and en web were mostly separated again.
No.124448
>>119523Twitter and friends are hard because they throttle requests and will hide stuff on a timeline on purpose if they notice you doing it. Does gallery-dl support twitter yet? Been awhile since I used it.
I've been trying to set-up a website for years where Japanese artists and English fans could interact without the fear of censorship. I should really get off my ass and do it. I would love to get doujin creators from both Japan and America on the same website.
No.124449
>>124448It sounds like a great idea but Misskey originally was kinda like this, but what they found is that westerners have too many bad apples to merge the two communities and that it's easier to just keep them separate.
No.124451
>>124449What I wanted to do was keep out _those types_ by keeping the place kind of low-key. Only creators would be allowed to make accounts to post content to the galleries. Then slowly allow users in at first. Make it exclusive like gmail and facebook were in the early days. Then once you build a culture of kindness you start to open up and test the waters with outsiders. But if they don't conform you get rid of them.
Before I die I want to see the nice western otaku and content creators and the doujin circles in Japan interact more together. I think we could make amazing things together if we combined forces. Plus both sides already want to learn the other sides language. So it would be very helpful for everyone involved if they could practice both in text and voice chat.
Finally, it would allow western fans to directly donate to doujin creators in Japan without all of the usual hoops. I know things like fanbox exist. But what we really need is a way to pay them directly through a platform the community itself controls.
Imagine if we had doujin circles in the west. They basically don't exist. Almost no one is willing to create content and share it for free any longer in places like America.
No.124452
>>124451It would probably need to be reliant upon an invite system. Maybe something like private torrent communities in which the the inviting person bears a responsibility and penalty for violations done by anyone they invite. You'd need very active moderators that cull any of the activist stuff the second it crops up and issue instant account deletions for it. The free and open internet really isn't ideal in this situation when you're dealing with higher status people that brigade and bully with a misguided sense of justice behind them. They unfortunately have the power.
I think you could also just design it to function like an old forum or imageboard and that would filter out a lot of people that simply don't want to use something that isn't a twitter clone. This isn't an age thing as there's lots of young people on places like f95 and even newgrounds. I really don't understand why there's like 20 twitter clones when the format is terrible for anything that isn't sharing pics of food.
As kind of interesting as it has been to see the internet grow over the decades, forcing different communities to share the same sites has really lead to some terrible interactions. You really do need to protect artists and weirdos by shielding them from the rest of humanity through obscurity.
No.124455
>>124451The west does have a lot of doujin creator type people that make things for free, they just seem to make games instead of comics. F-95 zone has a lot of games from them and some of the game developers post on the site too.
No.124459
>>124452I agree with most everything you said. I've been here to watch it grow and chance. It's really changed for the worse. I don't understand the tiwtter clones myself. The problem with moderation is finding good ones. Those people you speak of are always the firs to apply. They act sane for a bit then they go crazy and kill the community from the inside. Seen it happen far too often.
>>124455We used to have a lot of "doujin" software but now it seems like things are going behind a paywall. What I really miss are western artists that did animated shorts. A lot of them were really talented. Now you rarely hear from them at all.
I wrote a long post some where else about how I want to run/manage/start such a community. Perhaps we could discuss this there if you'd like to talk some more about it.
No.124588
I decided to look at the booru side of things. Some software/service thing (booru.org) that a lot of smaller boorus use (and even gelbooru) has been on the downturn for years now. To my disappointment the guy actually closed it to new applications years ago. I decided to see if there's any news in regards to this and this seems like the guy's disinterest is even lower than it used to be. It took a month for him to reply to a thread about tag searching not working:
https://forum.booru.org/viewtopic.php?t=14193With it "winding down" I wonder what this could mean for every booru that relies on it. I've seen many websites die over the years from admins that have long since lost interest and it makes me wonder what's going to happen. Gelbooru will manage I'm sure, but what about all the smaller stuff?
On a side note it's kind of disappointing to see people that used to be so passionate about this stuff just mentally check out and no longer care, but I guess that's a subject for another day.