No.122581
dumb argumentative shitposter.
No.122582
>>122580You're so delusional.
>>122581Bad thread for this
No.122583
>>122580YOU WOULD GIVE UP A FREE CAR WITH NO LOANS!
No.122585
... and bumping this thread so it's visible (moved posts don't bump)
No.122587
oh my god, you are so fucking stupid just because you want to defend the idea that your monitary contribution to an industry is pointless
No.122588
Your argument is based in no logical fact other than how you want to defend that you pirate your entertainment despite apparently making 6 figures
No.122589
If you're making 6 figures and think 12,000 is nothing. Go ahead and buy Kissu a server. I will pick it out for you and give you my address.
No.122591
>>122590Because that's where there's a lot of datacenters and you can get some good hosting in the desert through nuclear power prices, easy to dump heat into a dry desert and government subsadies
No.122603
>>122576It puts all their products at the mercy of a single American company.
Regardless of what their current policies are, you have to plan ahead for what their policies might be by the time you want to sell your game, and those policies might be mandated by American law.
This is not to say that either valve or the USA are evil. But whenever you thread a significant portion of your media through a single such outlet, the consequences will be visible.
No.122604
>>122578Let me just point out that profit is usually the result of a subtraction.
To visualize:
Revenue
-Costs
------
Profit
If you think that ~10% of your total revenue is meaningless, for most companies, such a percentage may very easily be greater than the actual profit. The majority of companies do not have profit margins in excess of 10%.
This is not a rounding error unless you are a terrible businessman.
No.122607
>>122576>I only see this accelerating the trend of Japanese eroge devs releasing their games on Steam. Which is a good thing for the Devs themselves if they do it as it's a much bigger marketMore western censorship. It's a horrible thing for everyone.
No.122608
>>122607You talk like this as if anyone who draws lolicon is actually a good artist and not just coasting off of an easy to market niche.
No.122610
Meanwhile your dumb take is forcing artists to release their games behind the worst mosaicing that destroys their art
No.122613
>>122612
yeah and that's the end of the list
No.122614
Don't delete your mistakes, I will see them
No.122615
I can pick about 5-8 lolicon artists who actually have tallent and the rest are just pure garbage. Then the ones that sell on DLSite charge 2x the cost of normal content
No.122616
>>122608>is actually a good artistnigger what?
¥Kinomoto Anzu¥Henreader¥Tanabe Kyou¥Rustle¥Higashiyama Show¥Onizuka Naoshi¥Quzilax¥Fuyutugu¥Hikoma Hiroyuki¥Tsubaki Jushirou¥Atte Nanakusa¥MUK¥Satuyo¥HaguhaguThis is just going off of h-manga I could distinctly remember and it took me a bit because I forgot the names of some of them. If I went through my art folders I'd certainly find more.
No.122620
also was debating whether to include ichihaya and sakamata nerimono but they probably deserve to be noted for their style
No.122622
forgot Sabaku too yoruko is amazing...
No.123668
This is another reminder to set your location to Japan on pixiv. Loli tags had already been blocked for people with a location set in in US/UK and other countries and now it's extending to other R18 stuff. This text looks like a boilerplate thing that companies like Patreon must comply with to not be erased by the almighty credit card monopolies:
https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=10830https://pixiv1.app.box.com/s/6uq41xs25m092e6co1vor3r98kr4embvI think a lot of this could have been avoided if pixiv and others would haven taken a stand against realistic AI stuff and the illegal stuff that happens in its comments, or AI in general since it's what opened the floodgates to all this stuff.
There really needs to be some sort of solution to this so people can still enjoy ero 2D stuff since a foul wind has only intensified...
No.123669
>>123668The solution would be for the western world to give up on regulating fictional pornography since nobody is physically affected by its existence. It's not Japan that needs to change for draconian laws.
No.123671
>>123670In that case artists and the wider world in general should really try to start making crypto payments a reality since then we'd no longer be constrained to the ridiculous demands of card processing companies.
No.123672
>>123668Is it even feasible to take a stand against all AI art in general? Feels impossible if people just remove the metadata from their stuff that gives away it being AI. Either way just another case of Japan splitting its net further from foreigners because of their annoying nature. Eventually we'll be back to when the jp and en web were mostly separated again.
No.124448
>>119523Twitter and friends are hard because they throttle requests and will hide stuff on a timeline on purpose if they notice you doing it. Does gallery-dl support twitter yet? Been awhile since I used it.
I've been trying to set-up a website for years where Japanese artists and English fans could interact without the fear of censorship. I should really get off my ass and do it. I would love to get doujin creators from both Japan and America on the same website.
No.124449
>>124448It sounds like a great idea but Misskey originally was kinda like this, but what they found is that westerners have too many bad apples to merge the two communities and that it's easier to just keep them separate.
No.124451
>>124449What I wanted to do was keep out _those types_ by keeping the place kind of low-key. Only creators would be allowed to make accounts to post content to the galleries. Then slowly allow users in at first. Make it exclusive like gmail and facebook were in the early days. Then once you build a culture of kindness you start to open up and test the waters with outsiders. But if they don't conform you get rid of them.
Before I die I want to see the nice western otaku and content creators and the doujin circles in Japan interact more together. I think we could make amazing things together if we combined forces. Plus both sides already want to learn the other sides language. So it would be very helpful for everyone involved if they could practice both in text and voice chat.
Finally, it would allow western fans to directly donate to doujin creators in Japan without all of the usual hoops. I know things like fanbox exist. But what we really need is a way to pay them directly through a platform the community itself controls.
Imagine if we had doujin circles in the west. They basically don't exist. Almost no one is willing to create content and share it for free any longer in places like America.
No.124452
>>124451It would probably need to be reliant upon an invite system. Maybe something like private torrent communities in which the the inviting person bears a responsibility and penalty for violations done by anyone they invite. You'd need very active moderators that cull any of the activist stuff the second it crops up and issue instant account deletions for it. The free and open internet really isn't ideal in this situation when you're dealing with higher status people that brigade and bully with a misguided sense of justice behind them. They unfortunately have the power.
I think you could also just design it to function like an old forum or imageboard and that would filter out a lot of people that simply don't want to use something that isn't a twitter clone. This isn't an age thing as there's lots of young people on places like f95 and even newgrounds. I really don't understand why there's like 20 twitter clones when the format is terrible for anything that isn't sharing pics of food.
As kind of interesting as it has been to see the internet grow over the decades, forcing different communities to share the same sites has really lead to some terrible interactions. You really do need to protect artists and weirdos by shielding them from the rest of humanity through obscurity.
No.124455
>>124451The west does have a lot of doujin creator type people that make things for free, they just seem to make games instead of comics. F-95 zone has a lot of games from them and some of the game developers post on the site too.
No.124459
>>124452I agree with most everything you said. I've been here to watch it grow and chance. It's really changed for the worse. I don't understand the tiwtter clones myself. The problem with moderation is finding good ones. Those people you speak of are always the firs to apply. They act sane for a bit then they go crazy and kill the community from the inside. Seen it happen far too often.
>>124455We used to have a lot of "doujin" software but now it seems like things are going behind a paywall. What I really miss are western artists that did animated shorts. A lot of them were really talented. Now you rarely hear from them at all.
I wrote a long post some where else about how I want to run/manage/start such a community. Perhaps we could discuss this there if you'd like to talk some more about it.
No.124588
I decided to look at the booru side of things. Some software/service thing (booru.org) that a lot of smaller boorus use (and even gelbooru) has been on the downturn for years now. To my disappointment the guy actually closed it to new applications years ago. I decided to see if there's any news in regards to this and this seems like the guy's disinterest is even lower than it used to be. It took a month for him to reply to a thread about tag searching not working:
https://forum.booru.org/viewtopic.php?t=14193With it "winding down" I wonder what this could mean for every booru that relies on it. I've seen many websites die over the years from admins that have long since lost interest and it makes me wonder what's going to happen. Gelbooru will manage I'm sure, but what about all the smaller stuff?
On a side note it's kind of disappointing to see people that used to be so passionate about this stuff just mentally check out and no longer care, but I guess that's a subject for another day.
No.124658
>>124452>I really don't understand why there's like 20 twitter clones when the format is terrible for anything that isn't sharing pics of food.Are you counting by URLs? Most of those are mastodon instances
No.124672
>>124588The upside to this is I wrote some software over two decades ago now that's still chugging along fine and being used by lots of websites (it's written in PHP). So most likely someone will pick it up when it gets too unbearable and the bugs too annoying.
A lot of it isn't a lack of passion. It's a lack of time combined with the fact that it's becoming nearly impossible to host certain content on the internet these days without being harassed, doxed and ddos'd. I went through that over the last few years myself. I'd still have a couple of places online if I could keep them up without constant waves of pizza spam and bot spam. A long with people with nothing better to do than devote their lives to trying to take them down. I burned through multiple hosts in just 6 months due to harassment simply because I allowed people to have a home when others wouldn't. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to simply ignore sections of a website they don't like.
I even had people sign up to be mods that would wait until they knew I was asleep before causing a bunch of drama with the goal of running other users off. It's really sad. Of course these people never build anything of their own. They only destroy what others provide for free.
Which is why if I do something again (assuming I can raise the funds) it's going behind an LLC and going to be some kind of invite-only place (at least at first). My pipe dream goal is to run a place with creators can upload any content they want without fear of censorship and users could donate/pay them directly without worrying about the funds going missing or the banks cutting the creators off due to nature of the content.
I _really_ think it's about time we had a place where the Japanese and English users can interact directly when they want. It doesn't make sense to keep them separated when so many on both sides are interested in learning the other side's language (or already know it). Plus I don't see the point in Japanese creators going through these distro channels like CR and others. Which only ruin the content or censor it. When they could just sell directly to English users.
Imagine if a mangaka could post his/her work on a place with no censorship then share some of their donations with the English community to do a proper translation within a few days/week. We're already doing it for free for a lot of titles anyway.
No.126932
>>126930Bluesky was made by the former twitter CEO who is himself politically activist-y and it attracted other political-minded people so I wouldn't count on it to be good for anything fun or interesting. Definitely not something for hobbyists, just like twitter or instagram and pretty much everything else. It's a twitter clone through and through so it will operate like one.
I'm kind of surprised Zankuro tried, since I assume he's someone that deals with similar stuff on twitter. I wonder why mastadon isn't more popular, they do have their own Japanese instances (and misskey like you said).
No.130309
e621 (the major furry booru) just did a complete purge of all "young humanoid" stuff.
https://e621.net/forum_topics/45501That's a bunch of Pokemon and kemono stuff wiped out I'm sure.
No.130310
>>130309>It's wishy washy because it's the best we can offer. There is no single law we can point to as the tipping point, and while we were sitting pretty unaffected by most things, the same can't be said to a bunch of our business partners who did not appreciate the heat we attract.>And since we can't function in a vacuum we have had to adjust.So it's not any new laws or anything, just business ties that would be soured having that stuff up. Well that's disappointing but at least Gelbooru has any content I could want so losing stuff on e621 isn't much.
No.130322
>>130310Translation: We don't care about the community and we just want to make money. So we're going to abuse the community as much as we can get away with and bow down to whatever advertiser is willing to shill products on our borderline porn website.
Same attitude that is killing the rest of the internet.
No.132143
The owner of FurAffinity died. That's not my kind of thing, but it that's one of the original big furry sites so hopefully it will still manage to do its thing without him.
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10923887
No.132147
I will keep using boorus and Pixiv. I hate Twitter.
No.132150
I gave up on Twitter completely a few months ago.
Everything I get now is from Pixiv and boorus.
I miss a lot of artists (a ton have Pixiv accounts and haven't posted to them in like 4 years), but fuck it.
No.132159
>>132150i was trying to look up >>>/jp/79161's author yesterday and his work has barely been uploaded to danbooru so i had to use nitter i really wish i could upload the pics...
No.132171
>>132150You may need to just work with Nitter or something like that and list out some artists that you often miss but want to see more of.
No.132176
>>132171I found a nitter instance that works!
Everything kept saying that Nitter stopped working a while ago while I was searching around, but this one works.
https://nitter.poast.org/c170904919god, I love this guy's work