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 No.98115[View All]

Right now it seems to be a good time to build a PC:
CPUs and GPUs are coming back in stock.
GPU price dropped to MSRP, thanks to the end of GPU crypto mining.
New generation, low availability technologies are cropping up like PCIe 4, DDR5, RTX 4090, AM5 socket, diverting consumer attention away from previous gen.
M.2 SSDs are cheaper than ever, and will be even cheaper in the near future because of flash memory chip oversupply.

What does /qa/ think about building a PC now?
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 No.119795

had a blackout in the middle of the night but my uninterruptible power supply did its job w00t w00t

 No.119832

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Gonna test any performance benefits a gtx1080 in a pice3 8x, dedicated to physx, will do.

 No.119834

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Ventilation? Airflow? Never heard of it

 No.119835

>>119832
>>119834
The fact that you posted only a single shoe makes me uncomfortable. Where is the other shoe?

 No.119836

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>>119835
Found it

 No.119837

>>119836
Thank you.

 No.119838

nvidia drivers messed up as soon as it detected two cards. I forget if I've had this issue in the past, but reinstalling drivers before I can test

 No.119839

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In the meantime I guess I put the AMD 5600 back into my other computer which I'm going to put a different OS onto

 No.119840

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easy driver reinstall fix. Probably was another way.

 No.119841

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>>119832
>859
>24917
No real noticeable difference or detriment. I presume my card gets hotter though

 No.119842

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Weird though, my furmark benchmark is much worse
>>118626

 No.119843

how strange... even with the other GPU unpowered it still can't hit my window10 numbers

 No.119844

>>118636
even if I compare all my other numbers, my best benchmarks were on windows10 >>119841

Is it possible that windows11 is just outright garbage?

 No.119845

My only conclusion is that I'm lacking in RAM to run windows11 properly, but it begs the question... why windows 11?

 No.119846

>>119845
why not mwahahahaha

 No.119847

>>119842
Windows 11 should have a negligible difference in performance. The only explanation I can think of for this big of a discrepency is that the GPU driver was not actually loaded and you were instead using integrated graphics for that test.

 No.119848

>>119847
That's not a reasonable assumption. I did a restart without my second GPU and a restart with both GPU and both the framerates were ~90 which is far worse than what I had on windows10

 No.119849

>>119848
Skill issue then.

 No.119850

>>119849
you are a miicrosoft employee

 No.119851

File:Tech Support.mp4 (7.63 MB,854x480)


 No.119852

I'll try changing drivers with only the RTX at some point when I install arch onto my other computer

 No.119853

Until then, Microsoft is gimping my computer, probably because I don't have enough DRAM anymoore

 No.119854

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>>119851
Scandi accents will never not sound tard.

 No.119894

>>119836
holy what the CAT

 No.120081

er, apparently the nvme slots of my motherboard came with something called thermal pads and I thought it was just some random crap they put onto it for protection... well, I guess I didn't need them...

 No.120082

covered in cathair and dust anyways

 No.120350

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I have a bit of a question related to PC building. What's the best way of setting up a good, stable, long-term storage? I've only ever heard of RAID so I don't really know much about it but it seems like mostly just a big backup for a single drive, but I want something that'll allow me to hold a huge amount of data without needing to worry about space or failure so I don't know if that's the best setup unless I have 64tb drives.

 No.120352

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>>120350
If it's something that you want to preserve for a long time, but might not necessarily need to access very often, the answer is cold storage. Basically, that means taking making a backup of those files and then putting them onto a drive or a disc. If you really care about them you would make two copies: one to keep at home, and another "off-site", to store somewhere like a bank safety deposit box.

If you need to access the files with some regularity, the answer is generally a NAS. There's NAS manufacturers if you want something put-together. Synology and QNAP are the two leading brands in that area. You don't need to go out and buy a custom system though. If you want to, you can just build a budget PC and put drives into it, and then install a NAS management OS like TrueNAS or Unraid. That said, "RAID is not a backup!". It's a system for fault tolerance so a single or multiple drive failures without losing all of the data. Basically, you would select the RAID level that is most suitable for your level of fault tolerance (how much you care about the data), how much performance you want, and how much you care about storage efficiency. You can't really have all three. RAID0 is no fault tolerance, high speed, and high storage efficiency. RAID1 is high fault tolerance, and high speed, but poor storage efficiency. RAID5 is decent fault tolerance, but poorer speed, and decent storage efficiency. RAID6 is better fault tolerance, but poorer speed, and worsened storage efficiency. There's also RAIDz, which is essentially the same RAID levels, but using the ZFS filesystem on something like TrueNAS. RAIDz1 is RAID1, RAIDz2 is RAID5, and RAIDz3 is RAID6.

 No.120354

>>120350
for this company server I set up it has 2TB of RAID5(so 3 960GB drives) and backups of the 2TB are made onto a 2TB flash drive plugged into the server. I believe it has cloud backups as well to azure.

 No.120356

so anyways, to set up software RAID5 I think you can probably get it to copy your existing data into the array through some steps. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/how-to-set-up-raid-windows-10,36783.html

For 64TB you need 32TB*3 to get RAID5. If one of the drive fails the others will still function but your computer won't go to operating system without recovery. Or Windows should tell you a drive failed. Never had to deal with it

 No.120359

from the looks of it it's a major hastle to go from a No-RAID(this is different from RAID0 btw) setup into RAID5.

So you might consider a service like dropbox, or if you're afraid of ToS violations then an NAS is a pretty cool option, but you could just plug an external harddrive into a random computer you have and setup network uploads into it. In any case, to get automatic drive fail saftey then you'll need a way to put all your data onto an empty space and reupload it.

 No.120362

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So like, I'd plug three formatted drives into the computer, then start up Disk Management to confirm or go into Storage Spaces and it should list everything you have.
There will likely be a way somehow to select all three empty and group them into RAID5.


If you have a 100TB drive, a 32TB drive and a 64TB drive, you might be able to create 32TB partitions on each. Something I'd experiment with

 No.120364

actually, wtf are you even talking about with wanting 64TB of HDD... we're going to have to start going into obscure sorts of RAID configurations if you want that to even be possible with current hardware limitations. Most practical is going to be 44TB from 3x 22TB on RAID5 https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-ironwolf-pro-st22000nt001-22tb/p/N82E16822185096?Item=N82E16822185096

 No.120368

>>120364
Larger hard drives are more failure prone, and take much longer to recover if one fails. It's better to use smaller hard drives and more of them. Personally, I think 12TB is probably the sweet spot.

 No.120369

>>120359
how do you setup network uploads? i have a NAS with some space and I was thinking of setting up a cron job that calls rsync on the folders i care about preserving but thats pretty jury-rigged

 No.120370

>>120369
I imagine there are probably some tools that behave like OneDrive or Dropbox, either foss or premium.
What I do with my projects is have it upload to a server every time I restart

 No.120371

With a cron task that is. You might FTP but I just ssh

 No.120570

>>120364
https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Black-Performance-Internal/dp/B08MKJPFZ7/
How does that drive differ from this one? I know WD Black is pretty good from memory and seagate had a bad rep at one point for dying drives.

 No.120571

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Reminder that World Backup Day will be on the 31st of this month and there should be some good deals on drives, if you're looking to buy any.

 No.120573

>>120571
Didn't even know about this, thanks for the heads up Anon.

 No.123591

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Win11 benchmark... will compile them into a list later...

 No.123592

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 No.123606

gotten pretty fast at reinstalling my programs after a format...

 No.123607

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>>123592
Is this an anthropomorphic ("furry") test?

 No.123610

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New furry

 No.123611

WHAT THE FUCK MICROSOFT
WHY AM I GETTING 2X THE FRAMERATE ON WINDOWS10???

 No.123617

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test with furmark 1 since all my others have been on that

 No.123619

hm, there's AA on the win11 test for some reason

 No.123621

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I'm not sure why windows 11's benchmark is on AA4x but Win10's isn't. That accounts for the framerate weirdness.

I apparently missed that because it's in my older screenshots too >>118626 >>119842

 No.123623

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passmark ratings are nominally better in 2D rendering but roughly equal in 3D. Win11's layout system might be messing with it for being too much bloat
>>123591




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