Apparently some people are trying to teach their pets to talk with buttons. How much do you think they understand?

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"Talking" pets Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:33:02 No.900

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:33:51 No.901

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:34:36 No.902

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:35:51 No.903

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:36:29 No.904

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:42:27 No.905

Of course there's plenty of reason to be skeptical.
Here's the story of Clever Hans for those who don't know it.

Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 22:00:49 No.907

I'm not sure dogs understand anything more than "pushing x button triggers x reaction from their owner"
the first video goes way overboard though half the words are useless and the rest is redundant

Anonymous 05/14/21 (Fri) 00:05:40 No.908

>>907
>"pushing x button triggers x reaction from their owner"
Maybe they don't fully comprehend language, but isn't that still indicative of understanding on some level?

Anonymous 05/14/21 (Fri) 00:33:43 No.909

The person who has these buttons tries to give us much visual information of what the dog is looking at and submits data to the UCSD Comparative Cognition Lab which studies the difference in human and animals. I think if there was nothing to it they wouldn't bother looking into it.

Anonymous 05/14/21 (Fri) 00:58:19 No.910

>>908
for simple concepts like "going out" or "come" yeah, but for abstract stuff like "happy" "friends" "love you" and so on I doubt they make a meaningful distinction. Aside from the voice the owner praises them all the same and the dogs would get similar results if they were mashing those buttons randomly, the feedback doesn't seem obvious enough.

Temporal concepts like "soon" and "later" are pretty suspect as well because their definition isn't even clear between humans. They're interesting to study though, I don't think we know to what extent dogs plan for the future so far.

Anonymous 05/14/21 (Fri) 23:01:04 No.914

I think octopuses show the most promise for advance intelligence.

Anonymous 05/14/21 (Fri) 23:17:19 No.915

>>914
What about monke

Anonymous 05/15/21 (Sat) 01:46:36 No.916

>>914
Is counting really that much of an indication of intelligence?

Anonymous 05/15/21 (Sat) 01:49:03 No.917

>>916
"Intelligence" is a very broad topic, so that's kind of a hard question to answer.

Anonymous 05/15/21 (Sat) 01:49:29 No.918

>>916
if you think about it, no

Anonymous 05/25/21 (Tue) 19:53:42 No.974

>>915
That's quite possible if the Gombe Chimpanzee War is anything to go by their strategic thinking rivals even wolves.
There is also elephants are their own unique intelligence with the amazing memory recall they have and recognizing their own reflection.

Anonymous 05/29/21 (Sat) 09:49:43 No.995

>>974
From this video it seems like elephants are smart enough to recognize a medical vehicle. Otherwise I'm not sure why a previously shot animal would try approaching humans again.

Anonymous 05/29/21 (Sat) 15:16:53 No.996

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>>995
Elephants know all about medical matters. In a book I read it says 'and when they meet a flock of sheep huddling together they protect them on their journey, so that no missile kills any if them. If they fight a battle, they always take care of the weary and the wounded'.

Anonymous 05/29/21 (Sat) 18:23:55 No.997

>>916
Counting is a huge sign of intelligence, although this video doesn't seem like it'd prove anything because it's simply choosing which side appears to have more food. You can't really consider that counting as it something basic like searching for food.
Octopi are smart enough to count, though. The very sad limitation is their very short lifespans- it'd be just like people living a few years.

Anonymous 05/29/21 (Sat) 18:43:18 No.998

>>914
shame their lifespan makes it all meaningless
so close, so far

/spg/ - Spring

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