Anonymous 08/13/24 (Tue) 04:22:13 No. 132358 >>132359
>>132357 Hai, sakka desu.
It's a funny way to write /qa/ spirit, a phono-semantic matching of it with eternity flipped around, pronounced kyuuei. Energy/spirit of kyuuei, /qa/ spirit.
Anonymous 08/13/24 (Tue) 04:32:37 No. 132359 >>132373
>>132358 Now that you say it it seems so obvious.I even spelled out kyuuei, but still didn't make the connection. ちゅうー
Anonymous 08/13/24 (Tue) 15:56:00 No. 132370 >>132371 >>132373
>>132357 If I ever have a child, I'm going to name him 久永, I thought but that would probably be interpreted as bad omen now that I think about it... "the opposite of eternity"
Anonymous 08/13/24 (Tue) 18:26:52 No. 132373 >>133133
>>132359 It definitely could've been more accurate, as the original Japanese spirit uses 魂/tamashii and not 気. You could even say it's straight-up wrong, I don't remember why I went with that in the first place.
>>132370 There do exist some pairs of real words composed of the same characters flipped around, like 栄光 and 光栄, and they're by no means the opposite of each other (which makes them trickier to memorize).
Anonymous 09/11/24 (Wed) 05:18:23 No. 133147
HOLOwoninsinsasetai
Anonymous 09/21/24 (Sat) 15:37:43 No. 133442 >>133443 >>133444
¥権威 of all the kanji I've learned, this has to be the worst one yet in terms of pronunciation
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 21:54:39 No. 133614 >>133615
>>133613 So... what does it say?
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 22:27:32 No. 133615
>>133614 大 became 犬 with the addition of the bird.
Which changes it from “big” to “dog”
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 22:35:49 No. 133616 >>133618
https://ixrec.neocities.org/immersion/ Pretty neat. It's a list of different JP media sorted by their approximate difficulty for a non-native speaker.
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 23:09:29 No. 133618
>>133616 There's also jpdb
https://jpdb.io/ I haven't used it for SRS or anything like that, but it has info about difficulty, unique words, kanji. It also has entire lists of words to practice, but I think it's fine to just grind out a popular 2K deck, familiarize yourself with some basic N5 and N4 grammar concepts and start reading anyways with help from textractor to quick lookup and mine to anki. Doesn't matter if one doesn't understand everything, practice will help immensely regardless.
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 23:16:11 No. 133619 >>133621
Yeah?, I do learn japanse by rewatching tatami galaxy
Anonymous 09/25/24 (Wed) 23:57:28 No. 133621
>>133619 >Words (per minute) 187.1 you know that really is a lot of words
Anonymous 09/26/24 (Thu) 00:01:54 No. 133622
He says Kaiji is about mahjong though. So I dunno how much his list stands to analysis.
Anonymous 10/09/24 (Wed) 16:29:30 No. 134058 >>134059
How many words synonymous with "Bill" are there in Japanese... How do you know which one to use....
Anonymous 10/09/24 (Wed) 16:55:23 No. 134059
>>134058 https://www.wordnik.com/words/bill English isn't that much easier apart from the writing system.
As a generic advice, consume more Japanese and contexts will make sense and patterns emerge.
Anonymous 10/21/24 (Mon) 11:33:24 No. 134441
>>134432 ¥ 2:56 >Later hiragana took over katakana's function in mixed writing, and by later I mean less than a hundred years ago >1946 >and katakana was repurposed to encode loanwords. There were already instances prior to then of hiragana being used in mixed writing and katakana being used for loanwords.
But overall, this seems like an okay overview.
Anonymous 01/22/25 (Wed) 03:54:00 No. 137113
I'm going to be taking a Chinese class this spring. It seemed like a fun idea, but I will probably suffer.
Anonymous 03/16/25 (Sun) 23:48:23 No. 140926
>>140924 but learning kanji is fun! I didn't even plan to learn Japanese, I was also too intimidated by the writing system. I just wanted to know a little of the basics like their phonetic alphabets and then numbers and what is a male and female bathroom door in Japan because that one is pretty useful, and it just kinda snowballed from there because it was fun to learn.
With a memory program like Anki you can make it into a memory game. Tons of decks to help learning hiragana/katakana and some basic kanji and core vocabulary (kaishi 1.5k is good, but the kanji will be a bit difficult to differentiate in the beginning I think. There's also a radical deck for the kaishi deck can use to help with that).
It is difficult in the beginning not going to lie, but it somehow gets easier instead of more difficult. You build a sixth sense for what's what. Learning new words gets easier over time. I started super slow and just kinda went faster over time.
Anonymous 04/05/25 (Sat) 15:13:55 No. 141599 >>141600
Something I've realized is that the imageboard system of using flashcards, apps and online pdf books is not effective to the standard scholastic system of using pen and paper. Online tools have to be combined with writting things down on paper.
Anonymous 04/05/25 (Sat) 15:20:26 No. 141600 >>141606
>>141599 I thought that was a given.
I've always written down anki cards.
Anonymous 04/05/25 (Sat) 15:39:34 No. 141606
>>141600 yah and nah. It can seem like you're learning faster with an app.
Speaking of which all my anki data has been deleted it seems so I have to redownload the deck I always use or find another
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 01:17:04 No. 141624 >>141634
Bold statement. I don't see why you have to use pen and paper if you aren't interested in physically writing kanji. Just immerse more. I am mildly interested in physical writing because the written language really is beautiful, but it's not an effective use of my time to learn stroke orders when I can just read all day or watch something all day.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 07:26:12 No. 141634 >>141635
>>141624 You don't really understand it. Memorization is much better with a tactical response
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 07:50:09 No. 141635 >>141636
>>141634 You're wrong that I don't understand why you are doing it. I'm sure it helps, but I don't see why you wouldn't just read instead of spending time learning stroke order and kanji radicals to write it down. Even if you ignore learning to write, Every minute you're sitting there writing is a minute you're not spending seeing words and grammar in context to really absorb it without memorization which will help you just as much in outputting. It's a lot easier to produce a word you've read hundreds of times.
I just do my anki and then read. Then while reading I add new words to my anki reviews immediately based on how well I remember it from reading. If I don't know it, 1 day, if I can recall it while reading, start from 4 days to manage my review load.
Do it your way, I'm not saying it's wrong to write things down I am just refuting that it "has to" be combined with writing things down and I do question if it's more effective than just immersing. You can get some knowledge by memorization, but you want to absorb the whole meaning by seeing it in contexts either way which is why I think you're better off just reading. Words that I've read many times are a breeze when they show up in my reviews.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 08:01:12 No. 141636 >>141637
>>141635 You have to if you want to learn quickly.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 08:09:59 No. 141637 >>141638
>>141636 This is not true. I have never written anything and without getting into humblebrag numbers I have learned very fast. The grammar/vocab/kanji I am good at are not the ones I studied, but the ones I have read over and over in novels and heard in videos. I've never even opened a textbook.
Do it your way. Don't insist it's necessary.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 08:12:19 No. 141638 >>141640
>>141637 No, i feel as if it is malpractice to dissuade people from using pen and paper. This phenomenon is documented in teaching literature.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-writing-by-hand-is-better-for-memory-and-learning/
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 08:27:26 No. 141640 >>141646
>>141638 Yes, I am sure it is better for studying something in school, especially if it's not interesting and you need to ensure you're paying attention to what you're hearing/reading/thinking. I am not convinced it is better than immersing all day every day for learning languages.
I reached fluency in English by reading all day every day, not with a pen and paper and writing down words I don't even quite grasp yet due to lack of context building in the brain. I don't think I ever really wrote anything on paper.
Your article is barely relevant in this matter. It's comparing disinterested people sitting there forced to do something, not people actively engaging with a language.
I don't want to discuss this further because I don't feel like you're even responding to me, just repeating yourself.
>>141639 The article isn't wrong. It's about children learning best by handwriting which is absolutely true.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 08:40:54 No. 141644
Threads like this would be so much better if everyone who wanted to make blanket statements about what "works better" was required to pass JLPT N1 at the bare minimum.
Anonymous 04/06/25 (Sun) 13:50:26 No. 141646
>>141640 My point is that if you were serious you would throw everything you know at solving
the problem. Not that I think you have to, or should.
I'm not going to provide a long post on it. But it's worth pointing out that what I'm describing is researched. You'd struggle to find articles on adult education If you feel like it doesn't apply to adults
Anonymous 04/09/25 (Wed) 23:47:15 No. 141722 >>141723
Is Tae Kim supposed to go all the way to N1/2 ?
Anonymous 04/10/25 (Thu) 00:12:58 No. 141724 >>141732
>>141723 high basics or intermediate? Or what level is it theoretically supposed to stop at?
Anonymous 04/10/25 (Thu) 00:45:19 No. 141726
Well, I looked it up myself and people think the end of the book touches on N3 concepts
https://community.wanikani.com/t/tae-kim-which-category-do-i-need-for-jlpt-n4/52177/6
Anonymous 04/10/25 (Thu) 02:35:06 No. 141732
>>141724 Dunno man, it's been such a long time since I read it. But skimming the "advanced topics" section it seems to cover more or less intermediate topics.
Anonymous 04/12/25 (Sat) 03:56:54 No. 141817
Progress to get to N5 by the 20th..
- Doing recap of 100 new a day(roughly 20 vocab) from core 2000 to catch up to where I stopped.. most of them i just say easy to because my vocabulary is larger than that.
- Writting out a chapter of tae kim focusing on vocabulary and important concepts worth remembering.
- Occasionally write out a bunch of N5kanji if I have the time
- Watch some of this game show to try and get a feel for how people actually speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTU4DTH20w8&t=1053s
Anonymous 04/13/25 (Sun) 20:24:46 No. 141877 >>141897
Is so annoying how tae-kim uses unicode that doesn't work with Jisho so I can't find the stroke order
Anonymous 04/13/25 (Sun) 20:54:33 No. 141898
>>141897 I'm using the PDF so maybe that's it
Anonymous 04/13/25 (Sun) 21:17:21 No. 141901
>>141900 daddy's kitten got genderswapped