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I want to nakadashi *girl* has become a popular phrase on imageboards (mostly 4chan). But it's a mix of Japanese and English. If I was going to say "I want to cum inside Holo" fully in Japanese, how would I go about doing that? In the English sentence, nakadashi is a loan word and it is the action being done, but in Japanese I don't think 中出し is a verb. Can it be verbified by adding する to it? And then you conjugate it to say you "want" to do it. So the end result would be 私はホロで中出ししたい which would translate to I want to cum inside Holo. Am I correct?

Japanese is fun to learn.
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 No.132358>>132359

>>132357
Hai, sakka desu.
It's a funny way to write /qa/ spirit, a phono-semantic matching of it with eternity flipped around, pronounced kyuuei. Energy/spirit of kyuuei, /qa/ spirit.

 No.132359>>132373

>>132358
Now that you say it it seems so obvious.I even spelled out kyuuei, but still didn't make the connection. ちゅうー

 No.132370>>132371>>132373

>>132357
If I ever have a child, I'm going to name him 久永, I thought but that would probably be interpreted as bad omen now that I think about it... "the opposite of eternity"

 No.132371

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>>132370
Kyuuei Smith, great ring.

 No.132373>>133133

>>132359
It definitely could've been more accurate, as the original Japanese spirit uses 魂/tamashii and not 気. You could even say it's straight-up wrong, I don't remember why I went with that in the first place.
>>132370
There do exist some pairs of real words composed of the same characters flipped around, like 栄光 and 光栄, and they're by no means the opposite of each other (which makes them trickier to memorize).

 No.133129

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I think that a good test for my current nippongo level will be once I can watch a seasonal without subs and also under the influence of alcohol. Because then I'll know for sure that my brain's working to understand the anime in real time without needing to go through the effort of translating it.

 No.133133

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>>132373
>栄光
Will never forget that one thanks to it being immortalized in my brain by association with YoRHa's motto.

 No.133147

HOLOwoninsinsasetai

 No.133442>>133443>>133444

¥権威
of all the kanji I've learned, this has to be the worst one yet in terms of pronunciation

 No.133443

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>>133442
Yeah ん is surprisingly difficult to pronounce correctly. 千円 is another hard one.

 No.133444

>>133442
looks weird but doesn't seem hard

 No.133613>>133614

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A single bird can change everything.

 No.133614>>133615

>>133613
So... what does it say?

 No.133615

>>133614
大 became 犬 with the addition of the bird.
Which changes it from “big” to “dog”

 No.133616>>133618

https://ixrec.neocities.org/immersion/

Pretty neat. It's a list of different JP media sorted by their approximate difficulty for a non-native speaker.

 No.133618

>>133616
There's also jpdb https://jpdb.io/
I haven't used it for SRS or anything like that, but it has info about difficulty, unique words, kanji. It also has entire lists of words to practice, but I think it's fine to just grind out a popular 2K deck, familiarize yourself with some basic N5 and N4 grammar concepts and start reading anyways with help from textractor to quick lookup and mine to anki. Doesn't matter if one doesn't understand everything, practice will help immensely regardless.

 No.133619>>133621

Yeah?, I do learn japanse by rewatching tatami galaxy

 No.133621

>>133619
>Words (per minute) 187.1
you know that really is a lot of words

 No.133622

He says Kaiji is about mahjong though. So I dunno how much his list stands to analysis.

 No.134058>>134059

How many words synonymous with "Bill" are there in Japanese... How do you know which one to use....

 No.134059

>>134058
https://www.wordnik.com/words/bill
English isn't that much easier apart from the writing system.
As a generic advice, consume more Japanese and contexts will make sense and patterns emerge.

 No.134432>>134441>>134453

dekinai

 No.134441

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>>134432
¥ 2:56
>Later hiragana took over katakana's function in mixed writing, and by later I mean less than a hundred years ago
>1946
>and katakana was repurposed to encode loanwords.
There were already instances prior to then of hiragana being used in mixed writing and katakana being used for loanwords.

But overall, this seems like an okay overview.

 No.134453

>>134432
solid vid

 No.137113

I'm going to be taking a Chinese class this spring. It seemed like a fun idea, but I will probably suffer.

 No.140924>>140926

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>>138866
>Maybe you should learn it, might be fun. I dream in Japanese sometimes if I fall asleep listening to something Japanese.
I can't remember character names, there's no way I can memorize a thousand squiggly symbols that get modified by other squiggly symbols. Good luck to those who can, but my time has passed.

 No.140926

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>>140924
but learning kanji is fun! I didn't even plan to learn Japanese, I was also too intimidated by the writing system. I just wanted to know a little of the basics like their phonetic alphabets and then numbers and what is a male and female bathroom door in Japan because that one is pretty useful, and it just kinda snowballed from there because it was fun to learn.
With a memory program like Anki you can make it into a memory game. Tons of decks to help learning hiragana/katakana and some basic kanji and core vocabulary (kaishi 1.5k is good, but the kanji will be a bit difficult to differentiate in the beginning I think. There's also a radical deck for the kaishi deck can use to help with that).

It is difficult in the beginning not going to lie, but it somehow gets easier instead of more difficult. You build a sixth sense for what's what. Learning new words gets easier over time. I started super slow and just kinda went faster over time.

 No.141599>>141600

Something I've realized is that the imageboard system of using flashcards, apps and online pdf books is not effective to the standard scholastic system of using pen and paper.

Online tools have to be combined with writting things down on paper.

 No.141600>>141606

>>141599
I thought that was a given.
I've always written down anki cards.

 No.141606

>>141600
yah and nah. It can seem like you're learning faster with an app.

Speaking of which all my anki data has been deleted it seems so I have to redownload the deck I always use or find another

 No.141624>>141634

Bold statement. I don't see why you have to use pen and paper if you aren't interested in physically writing kanji. Just immerse more. I am mildly interested in physical writing because the written language really is beautiful, but it's not an effective use of my time to learn stroke orders when I can just read all day or watch something all day.

 No.141634>>141635

>>141624
You don't really understand it. Memorization is much better with a tactical response

 No.141635>>141636

>>141634
You're wrong that I don't understand why you are doing it. I'm sure it helps, but I don't see why you wouldn't just read instead of spending time learning stroke order and kanji radicals to write it down. Even if you ignore learning to write, Every minute you're sitting there writing is a minute you're not spending seeing words and grammar in context to really absorb it without memorization which will help you just as much in outputting. It's a lot easier to produce a word you've read hundreds of times.

I just do my anki and then read. Then while reading I add new words to my anki reviews immediately based on how well I remember it from reading. If I don't know it, 1 day, if I can recall it while reading, start from 4 days to manage my review load.

Do it your way, I'm not saying it's wrong to write things down I am just refuting that it "has to" be combined with writing things down and I do question if it's more effective than just immersing. You can get some knowledge by memorization, but you want to absorb the whole meaning by seeing it in contexts either way which is why I think you're better off just reading. Words that I've read many times are a breeze when they show up in my reviews.

 No.141636>>141637

>>141635
You have to if you want to learn quickly.

 No.141637>>141638

>>141636
This is not true. I have never written anything and without getting into humblebrag numbers I have learned very fast. The grammar/vocab/kanji I am good at are not the ones I studied, but the ones I have read over and over in novels and heard in videos. I've never even opened a textbook.

Do it your way. Don't insist it's necessary.

 No.141638>>141640

>>141637
No, i feel as if it is malpractice to dissuade people from using pen and paper. This phenomenon is documented in teaching literature.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-writing-by-hand-is-better-for-memory-and-learning/

 No.141640>>141646

>>141638
Yes, I am sure it is better for studying something in school, especially if it's not interesting and you need to ensure you're paying attention to what you're hearing/reading/thinking. I am not convinced it is better than immersing all day every day for learning languages.
I reached fluency in English by reading all day every day, not with a pen and paper and writing down words I don't even quite grasp yet due to lack of context building in the brain. I don't think I ever really wrote anything on paper.

Your article is barely relevant in this matter. It's comparing disinterested people sitting there forced to do something, not people actively engaging with a language.

I don't want to discuss this further because I don't feel like you're even responding to me, just repeating yourself.

>>141639
The article isn't wrong. It's about children learning best by handwriting which is absolutely true.

 No.141644

Threads like this would be so much better if everyone who wanted to make blanket statements about what "works better" was required to pass JLPT N1 at the bare minimum.

 No.141646

>>141640
My point is that if you were serious you would throw everything you know at solving the problem. Not that I think you have to, or should.

I'm not going to provide a long post on it. But it's worth pointing out that what I'm describing is researched. You'd struggle to find articles on adult education If you feel like it doesn't apply to adults

 No.141722>>141723

Is Tae Kim supposed to go all the way to N1/2 ?

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 No.141724>>141732

>>141723
high basics or intermediate? Or what level is it theoretically supposed to stop at?

 No.141726

Well, I looked it up myself and people think the end of the book touches on N3 concepts https://community.wanikani.com/t/tae-kim-which-category-do-i-need-for-jlpt-n4/52177/6

 No.141732

>>141724
Dunno man, it's been such a long time since I read it. But skimming the "advanced topics" section it seems to cover more or less intermediate topics.

 No.141817

Progress to get to N5 by the 20th..
- Doing recap of 100 new a day(roughly 20 vocab) from core 2000 to catch up to where I stopped.. most of them i just say easy to because my vocabulary is larger than that.
- Writting out a chapter of tae kim focusing on vocabulary and important concepts worth remembering.
- Occasionally write out a bunch of N5kanji if I have the time
- Watch some of this game show to try and get a feel for how people actually speak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTU4DTH20w8&t=1053s

 No.141877>>141897

Is so annoying how tae-kim uses unicode that doesn't work with Jisho so I can't find the stroke order

 No.141897>>141898

>>141877
I had no problems copypasting from https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/taekim.html to jisho.

 No.141898

>>141897
I'm using the PDF so maybe that's it

 No.141900>>141901

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I have never heard of this translation, but I'm not part of that community so...

 No.141901

>>141900
daddy's kitten got genderswapped




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