I think this poll is meaningless without offering different-year versions of the boards.

Kissu obviously has more of an /a/ background

You'd have to give years for those boards and plenty of caveats which makes me think that I can't really answer as either /a/ or /jp/. I like thinking that we're our own thing, but I guess it's inevitable that comparisons would be made. Not sure... I guess the 'take it easy' part is close to /jp/ but also a bit more seriousness than /jp/ is generally known for. Eeehhhh.....

>>3962
That's a bit of tough question. I don't really know what's the cutoff point to choose for them. For /a/ I guess it would be before the battle shonen generals took over the board, but I don't remember exactly when that happened. It was triggered by N/a/ruto which happened in late 2013 though. /jp/ also shitted itself in that year.

Back in the first years of the split, the oldfags of /a/ wanted to be like /jp/; /jp/ had managed to preserve old posting habits far better than /a/. For example the greentext thing, which kisssu is also fussy about, arrived on /a/ in 2009, I believe. While /a/ would usually resist new memes and posting habits far longer than the other big boards, it would eventually adopt them.
But rather than coming from /jp/ to kissu, I think it came from /a/'s memory of "the good old days", and thus potentially from a pre-split era.
The topics meanwhile are more aligned with /jp/ by necessity. They are certainly not a timely discussion of current goings-on in the anime/manga scene.

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>>3967
dzunndamoooonn!!!!

I've always thought the culture of /a/, and /jp/ to a lesser extent, are off putting for being forced and antiquated. They are lucky the mods still care about their board culture enough to enforce it. I never used /a/ consistently and mostly watch anime without the need to discuss it, the catalog being full of templates and spoilers made me avoid it back when I used to care more about them. I can respect them for hating ironic weebs and being somewhat knowledgeable but there are too many shitters for me to wade through the mud and try to discuss less popular anime they don't have much knowledge of.
>>3964
I'm sure most consider kissu as part of the ¨/jp/sphere¨ due to its origins

>>3969
>I'm sure most consider kissu as part of the ¨/jp/sphere¨ due to its origins
It must be said that kissu is pretty different from /jp/ spinoffs in principle though. /qa/ wasn't exclusively used by /jp/ users. The /a/ input exists because there were a lot of people who used /qa/ to talk about /a/ meta back then, such as me. A lot of those people would then become 2D/R posters later.

personally i didn't have any /a/ or /jp/ background before going on 4/qa/

>>3971
The most common origin besides those boards would be /vg/. Did I guess it right?

Andy for example makes it really obvious that he's a /vg/ poster with all the gachasluts that he posts.

>>3972
/leftypol/ actually, but never really posted about it
one guy once linked a history thread asking a technocrat tripfag if he'd been the who wrote it, and later i decided to stay on /qa/ after a /v/ thread was moved there

I don't really like to think of kissu as 'part' of anything or to look back to say what represents kissu and so on. It sets impossible standards of rose-tinted nostalgia and also may make newer people think they can't be a part of it. kissu is kissu and it's in the now.

>>3969
>I'm sure most consider kissu as part of the ¨/jp/sphere¨ due to its origins
I don't think many people do here or on /jp/ spinoffs, but it could be the case for people looking from the outside if they do nothing but a cursory glance. Maybe this is another 'what year' thing.

>>3974
>but it could be the case for people looking from the outside if they do nothing but a cursory glance
That does seem to be the case. I've read a few posts here and there saying that kissu wasn't for them because it was too /jp/ like.

>>3972
I mentioned /vg/ before. What makes it ¨different¨ is that you don't really ¨main¨ /vg/ as a whole board, you main your own general and the culture that general happens to develop. Some are small, slow and comfy, others are fast and full of shitposters, namefags gain notoriety in their individual general but not the whole board, etc. Some overlap exists ofc, especially when a new gacha comes out and anons want to meet up and play. /qa/ was slow enough for me to keep up with it daily and stick around. Not sure if I can consider myself a vgfag when I only stuck to a few threads in my time there and used other boards spontaneously (except for /pol/shit).

The cultures of those places have changed a lot over the years, but honestly it probably fits more with /jp/ regardless of when you pick. There's not a lot of discussion of actual anime/manga and the appreciation tends to be very surface level, with more focus being on the memes and culture around it. There are some /a/ generals that do the same thing, but I still think it's fundamentally /jp/ behavior. Also a lot of blogging and NEETwhining, which has existed on /a/ but in a much more limited form.

Part of it is just size, but the knowledge level here is significantly lower and that hurts discussion and show-specific jokes/references a lot more than it hurts old memes and rituals.

>>3966
>the greentext thing, which kisssu is also fussy about
At this point it's just an old meme. Purpletexting is just legitimized greentexting.

>>3969
>the mods still care about their board culture
Yeah, you obviously haven't used the board in any real capacity. The mods can't even be called apathetic, they're actively hostile to board culture and get worse every year. Even the spoiler problem is because they explicitly told people to use spoilers as NSFW tags (and forcibly changed posts that tried to stick to the old cultural norms), then pushed people into generals where manga/lnfags have to share a space with animefags while banning people for reporting unmarked spoilers instead of doing anything to enforce the written rules.

Also, "ironic weeb" was a forced meme that /a/ wanted the guy posting it everywhere to shut the fuck up about.

>>3977
I've read some of those complaints here. I meant things like banning you for the implication of sexualizing yotsuba, most other boards don't have anything resembling a sense of community like that. It shouldn't be the case but anyone using /a/ while trying avoid spoilers at the same time is a fool and the mods must feel the same way. 4chan as a whole is kuso because the rules and faq don't mean anything.
>Also, "ironic weeb" was a forced meme that /a/ wanted the guy posting it everywhere to shut the fuck up about.
regardless, people who misuse words like waifu and think anime is trash and so are they still exist.

kissu is /qa/ culture

>>3977
>Also, "ironic weeb" was a forced meme that /a/ wanted the guy posting it everywhere to shut the fuck up about.
Was it really? Because looking at the archive, there's hardly any people on /a/ all throughout 2016 calling others out for using the term. They even agree with it, overwhelmingly so. The weird thing is that it was being used on other boards previously, by 2015, but nobody seems to have mentioned it.

>>3977
>There's not a lot of discussion of actual anime/manga and the appreciation tends to be very surface level
I definitely contribute to this. I enjoy watching anime a lot, but I can't really talk about it. I can't say "Oh, Sakura eating a plum is a deconstruction of Mitsubishi's "Ode to Plums", an 1954 anime that was in response to Japan's development of the the kanji for "airplane", a reference that can be found in the 18th century wood carving of blahblahblahblah and the director blahblah producer blahblahblah. A lot of modern discussion seems to involve hearing what the creators say on twitter and getting their updates and opinions and stuff, too, which has mixed appeal.
I think "/jp/" is definitely more lax in this regard and more escapist so I guess kissu is closer to /jp/ in this regard... somewhat?
I think the amount of serious discussion in regards to anime and manga is increasing, but I can't really contribute to it much.

>>3978
>banning you for the implication of sexualizing yotsuba
Pretty sure that's sitewide.

Going to /a/ when you're not caught up on your seasonals was always foolish since that was the main purpose of the board, but demanding people be caught up on 20 volumes of untranslated LNs to discuss a new anime just kills discussion. Summertime Render was a good recent example where lots of people were praising it in AOTY threads even though the ones when it was airing were pretty dead and the predominant reason was that there's an expectation that mangafags will use the threads to talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet.

>>3982
Yeah, I was curious to see what people were saying about Undead Unluck recently but I know better than to ever look at anything related to it on 4chan.

>>3981
That's certainly part of the depth of knowledge that can be appealing to have around, but you can also speculate on the plot or rage about nonsensical events or thoroughly explain why your favorite girl is best and the others are all shit. Like the big Bravern Smith plot twist was something people there predicted because they look at the details more closely.

If you imagine a spectrum from "my cute wife Chino is so cute post Chino uguu" to "the ending of Clannad undermines the themes that had driven the show and harms the overall emotional impact" then kissu's culture clearly gravitates towards the former. Maybe you could call it an escapism-first mindset.

>>3985
I think that's largely a question of quantity. Since you mentioned Chino, let me just quickly screencap the current Chino thread.

Given a certain level of activity, there is just a greater chance of somebody stumbling over something of value. If you get only a single thread on a particular anime, and it's only 10 posts long, then the chances of it unearthing any great mysteries are close to zero.

>>3992
And I realize that using this particular general may be a bit unfair because it's almost infamous for being stale. But it gets the point across.

In my opnion, if kissu stays too stuck up on being like /jp/ the site won't have any chance of growing in the future. It doesn't feel right to call it part of the /jp/sphere. It just happens to have a /jp/ board (that didn't exist in the beginning). It would be best if it tried to emulate samachan or tohno to some extent.

>>3994
Well I think it's a good thing then that kissu separates itself quite heavily from being just another /jp/ spinoff.

>>3985
> kissu's culture clearly gravitates towards the former.
Did you mean to say the "latter"? It's not every show that gets this treatment but there's quite a lot of posts on currently airing shows that have considerable discussion either about the some aspect of the show or diverge into discussion about a tangential topic.

>>3993
The people who post in that general are mostly from the last era of /qa/ and are hostile to the rest of the board

>>3993
>it's almost infamous for being stale
That was specifically why I used it as the extreme end of the spectrum. I think it was even banished to /jp/ for a short time because it is just ritualposting memes from five years ago nonstop forever without anything resembling series discussion.

The point about number of posters is valid, though, since the manga was translated through those threads for two or three volumes, which was honestly quite frustrating because the handful of people inclined to discuss new chapters would immediately get drowned out by the memers.

>>3977
>There's not a lot of discussion of actual anime/manga and the appreciation tends to be very surface level, with more focus being on the memes and culture around it
I think this is changing recently though. It used to be true back then, but anime discussion is getting a lot more replies now. Examples:
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Most of these threads were posted by berun and he is quite passionate about it. The last four ones are by other anons I think. Last one is me.

There's also the thread about the Autumn season which broke seasonal thread reply record (if I'm not mistaken) and the one about manga:
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The manga thread is a bit slow, but it's hard to get manga discussion going in slow imageboards. It's getting some interesting elaborate and in-depth posts lately though, so it's worth checking it out.

>>3999
I don't usually look at those all-encompassing threads because the topics are so broad they have a hard time really focusing on any one thing. Maybe that makes my viewpoint a bit inaccurate, but looking at the seasonal thread I see a ton of posts about D&D systems and religion which, while interesting, are not anime or manga discussion so I don't think it's unfair to discount them somewhat.

I do really hate how /jp/-sphere altchans all use that format. I understand feeling the need to consolidate things on super slow boards, but pushing all seasonal discussion into one thread kind of shuts down other threads from being made. Kissu is actually a lot better than most at balancing the /a/ with the /jp/ in this regard, it's just that it still has an obvious slant towards /jp/.

>>4002
As far as topic broadness is concerned, it really irritates me how sterile 4chan/a/ has become. They can barely step out of their lane at all anymore.
That's not a /jp/ thing though. It is standard for image boards to just explore lines of discussion wherever they might lead you, and it was the catalog and generals that put an end to it.
Pic related. /a/nons used to be proud of their ability to just nerd out at the slightest opportunity.

You don't have to follow people into every weird rabbit hole that they dig for themselves. But following the "discussion" of just a specific title gets boring after a while.

This may just be prejudice speaking, but I think that old /a/ was more knowledgeable about anime&manga because they got to talk about random /a/-related stuff more often, as the conversations happened to veer that way.

>>4013
>think that old /a/ was more knowledgeable about anime&manga
Old post and I don't wish to go offtopic but yeah they definitely were, probably because you had more anons branching out into other genres like shojo/josei instead of being stuck at shonen/entry level. Seems like modern /a/ is very proud of still being at the entry point last I checked it. im not upset over it anymore but man is it really stale just like any other social media that discusses animanga.